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Is it going to be one year pairs and the next year SWC as was suggested a while back?

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4 hours ago, PHILIPRISING said:

NOT sure ... much will probably depend on whether this one is a success or not

Thats confirmed I'll not be attending or watching on TV then. Make sure it fails so we get the real SWC back.

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39 minutes ago, SCB said:

Thats confirmed I'll not be attending or watching on TV then. Make sure it fails so we get the real SWC back.

WITH respect I doubt that will be the determining factor. The FIM will look at a much bigger picture.

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Much prefer the Pairs to the 4TT format. Actual team racing rather than individuals and different teams in every heat, rather than just the same four.

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53 minutes ago, topsoil said:

Much prefer the Pairs to the 4TT format. Actual team racing rather than individuals and different teams in every heat, rather than just the same four.

For me, that's one of the massive negatives of the pairs format compared to the SWC fours format. 

When I'm watching team speedway, I'm supporting a team. In the SWC I watch my team race in every heat. In the pairs they will appear 6 times in the 21 races. So I have 15 races where there isn't direct interest or someone for me to support. 

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1 hour ago, PHILIPRISING said:

WITH respect I doubt that will be the determining factor. The FIM will look at a much bigger picture.

Which is what?

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1 hour ago, Humphrey Appleby said:

Which is what?

How many Poles turn up for event 3.  Because I've been to virtually empty stadiums to watch the race-off in Poland.

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I think it is a good move bringing in the pairs but I am concerned with the the Wroclaw track, I haven't seen evidence of any alterations.

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On 10/02/2018 at 10:43 AM, Panthers89 said:

Ha bugger! Who else then lol

Ukraine? Andrei Karpov +1 ?

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22 minutes ago, uk_martin said:

Ukraine? Andrei Karpov +1 ?

Depends on what nationality Loktaev is that week.

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8 hours ago, Col said:

How many Poles turn up for event 3.  Because I've been to virtually empty stadiums to watch the race-off in Poland.

I appreciate that.

But it would have been preferable to remove the third meeting of the SWC ( or come up with another work-around) to deal with that problem. Rather than this.
Although the race off has produced brilliant TV; if it has not been viable to run then it would have been reasonably straightforward to have found three qualifiers going to the SWC Final against the hosts., without a race-off, somehow. Either an extra qualifier (somewhere other than Poland) or highest scoring second team. Perhaps a little innovative thinking could have been used.

Similarly, the two-day final of this hodge-potch is unnecessary if there really is any doubt about the viabilty of the first day. Two rounds and a final. Wham bham.

Why didn't they just try to tinker with the brilliant SWC a little just to get it to work a little better.
Instead of putting it on hold whilst creating a tournament that may have some of the very same issues inherent from the start and (as I believe) introduce other issues that they don't seem to have given much thought to as yet.

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9 hours ago, Humphrey Appleby said:

Which is what?

WHETHER it is deemed a success by all the participating countries who, via the governing body,  are part of the process. 

There are speedway nations who felt no real affinity to the SWC because off a lack of riders (4) but who do think this offers them an opportunity to compete at the highest level. They have a voice.

 

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been looking at options for getting to Teterow, bit out the way isn't it! Hamburg or Berlin look nearest airports.

get back Sunday then a drive up north by the sound of it

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1 hour ago, PHILIPRISING said:

There are speedway nations who felt no real affinity to the SWC because off a lack of riders (4) but who do think this offers them an opportunity to compete at the highest level. They have a voice.

A team competition implies a certain strength-of-depth, otherwise why not just have 1-rider teams to allow more countries to be competitive?

There's really only 9 test playing countries, but no-one suggests turning that sport's premier competition into single wicket cricket to make things more competitive.

This best pairs competition just shows a complete lack of imagination and devalues one of the better events in the calendar. There's nothing new or unique about it whatsoever, and whilst it might be tolerable if it alternated with the SWC (as originally indicated), now it seems that it's actually intended to replace the SWC. 

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