Argos 262 Posted February 25, 2018 (edited) Now that Mr Scott Nicholls instructed a Sport Specialist Law firm and won his case, Any rider who is not happy that he is not a free agent at the end of a season even when is “Parent club don’t want to use him, and they get a Loan fee for him, could go to this very reputable Company were they would advise the rider that this is against the Law of the land, and this would completely screw the BSPAs Assets system and clubs Balance Sheets Edited February 25, 2018 by Argos Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SCB 0 Posted February 25, 2018 Also, what’s to stop any club with 10 points left for 2 riders offering contexts to two 10 point riders and being 10 points over the limit? If the BSPA reject it then it’s restraint of trade. In fact if I was Max Clegg I’d be taking the BSPA to court for restraint of trade. Lakeside were happy to employ him but the BSPA have rejected it. That’s not fair is it? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv 10,695 Posted February 25, 2018 Maybe its about time.... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GWC 495 Posted February 25, 2018 IN Nicholls case it was more the BSPA wouldn’t let him drop down into a Lowe league not specifically for a club he didn’t want to join. The asset system favours wealthier clubs and quite frankly isnt going to stop a rider going where he wants to go. We are now entering an austerity period for speedway so it’s best assets were got rid of. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Argos 262 Posted February 25, 2018 It’s so basic, All Speedway riders are Self Employed they agree to ride for a club until the end of a season, Due to the fact they are Self Employed they can ride for any other club in the world excluding the UK, His UK club do not deduct Income Tax or NI Contributions,but yet they are assets of a Company, Any Accountancy would tell you the system is completely illegal never mind a Legal Expert. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jenga 2,998 Posted February 25, 2018 (edited) so maybe we are heading back to the 70,s the points limit. could be dropped and scrapped and the asset system should be dropped . that brings in football , rugby and a whole load of other sports . looks like mr Bosmans rule could rear its head again . for decades the sport has been run by muppets who think they are above the law. even the law think they are above the law . so thats it . throw away the rule book . new laws/regulations for the coming season . 1 tape breakers excluded 2 four riders turning RIGHT on the corners . 3. new 1 min rule .no mucking about at start . thats all you need ! looking forward to seeing scoptt do more laps at wucky. hope its not too cold for him up north . Edited February 25, 2018 by jenga forgetful barperson Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jenga 2,998 Posted February 25, 2018 (edited) . DANGER , DANGER, WARNING , WARNING ,DANGER , DANGER. Edited February 25, 2018 by jenga Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Argos 262 Posted February 25, 2018 Points limit is not unlawful, rider assets are, simple as Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
False dawn 2,294 Posted February 25, 2018 It's very simple. If the governing body invent a set of rules they have to be: 1.Make sense. 2. Fair. 3. Be applied equitably (same for everyone). Then this is legal and not open to challenge. For example, the points limit for each club passes the above 3 rules. So is not open to challenge. Build a side to 60 points and it cannot be justified within the rules and cannot be accepted, legally. Invent a rule that doesn't pass all 3 rules (e.g. rule 3) and you are liable to challenge, legally. Are we clear? 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tweedcider 75 Posted February 25, 2018 Chickens coming home to roost? For years now the sport that we love has been allowed to run itself into the ground and almost to the point of self destruction. If ever there was a time to wake up, and give the sport a shake up, It has to be now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SCB 0 Posted February 25, 2018 2 hours ago, Argos said: Points limit is not unlawful, rider assets are, simple as Explain the difference. BSPA reject Peterborough’s teams that’s illegal. BSPA reject Lakesides team. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SCB 0 Posted February 25, 2018 2 hours ago, False dawn said: It's very simple. If the governing body invent a set of rules they have to be: 1.Make sense. 2. Fair. 3. Be applied equitably (same for everyone). Then this is legal and not open to challenge. For example, the points limit for each club passes the above 3 rules. So is not open to challenge. Build a side to 60 points and it cannot be justified within the rules and cannot be accepted, legally. Invent a rule that doesn't pass all 3 rules (e.g. rule 3) and you are liable to challenge, legally. Are we clear? How does Scott Nicholls not being allowed to drop down not them three things? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Third Man 2,213 Posted February 25, 2018 Points limit is the same for all teams, all teams agreed to the points limit Nichols and Kennett were not treated the same as other eiders of equal or even better ability I don't see what there is to misunderstand about this 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Third Man 2,213 Posted February 25, 2018 (edited) 3 minutes ago, SCB said: How does Scott Nicholls not being allowed to drop down not them three things? It just fails on all three 1,.Make sense. 2. Fair. 3. Be applied equitably (same for everyone). the points limit doesn't fail on any Edited February 25, 2018 by The Third Man Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SCB 0 Posted February 25, 2018 1 minute ago, The Third Man said: It just fails on all three 1,.Make sense. 2. Fair. 3. Be applied equitably (same for everyone). Except it does make sense or the second division will end up with a load of first division riders and increase costs. It is as fair as the points limit because it applies to all teams and all riders. It is applied to everyone. Name a rider with a Premiership average over 6 that has been allowed to drop down? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
