yahoho 30 Posted March 28, 2018 What is the point of the start marshall these days? I mean really? No one listens to him - he just appears to be a figure there for historic value and the pull the tapes down. Seeing some bloke franticly wave his arms and be ignored is not only pointless but embarassing. Last time I took a newcomer along with me that was their main question - "Why is that man there?". Just use the lights that are already in place around the tracks: Pit gates open and 2 minute warning is sounded 2 minutes ends and the pit gate closes Green ref does his check around the track and green light comes on At any point after that green light comes on the tapes are released (Given enough time for riders engines to spin up) Anyone left waiting at the tapes did not adhear to the two minute warning and has peanalised themselves. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2ndbendbeerhut 1,781 Posted March 28, 2018 Have a line behind the starting gate that riders have to be in by the 2 minutes...and then green light goes on. Any rider not ready... tough. Then upto 2 seconds after the tapes go up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ch958 2,395 Posted March 28, 2018 24 minutes ago, yahoho said: What is the point of the start marshall these days? I mean really? No one listens to him - he just appears to be a figure there for historic value and the pull the tapes down. Seeing some bloke franticly wave his arms and be ignored is not only pointless but embarassing. Last time I took a newcomer along with me that was their main question - "Why is that man there?". Just use the lights that are already in place around the tracks: Pit gates open and 2 minute warning is sounded 2 minutes ends and the pit gate closes Green ref does his check around the track and green light comes on At any point after that green light comes on the tapes are released (Given enough time for riders engines to spin up) Anyone left waiting at the tapes did not adhear to the two minute warning and has peanalised themselves. agree about the SMs but they also make sure riders are not encroaching on others' lanes. Personally i would issue them with yellow cards to show when being ignored, a second yellow would mean exclusion or yardage penalty Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stainlesssteelride 106 Posted March 28, 2018 Surely the best thing to do is the green light goes on at the end of 2 mins, if they ain't ready then they miss the start. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SPEEDY69 1,254 Posted March 28, 2018 What if they're all ready in advance of the 2 minutes, hang around? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
A ORLOV 8,628 Posted March 28, 2018 6 minutes ago, SPEEDY69 said: What if they're all ready in advance of the 2 minutes, hang around? Hopefully the green light can be put on and they go, why wait for two mins to elapse. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stainlesssteelride 106 Posted March 28, 2018 (edited) 16 minutes ago, A ORLOV said: Hopefully the green light can be put on and they go, why wait for two mins to elapse. Exactly, if they are ready then the green light is put on earlier, but when are the ever ready? Watch the Polish league, once the clock gets down to zero they are ready to go. Don't see why you can't do that here. Edited March 28, 2018 by Stainlesssteelride 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
graz gp 184 Posted March 28, 2018 I was at the Stead meeting on Sunday and all the rider's stayed on their bikes no problems, even Lasse Bjerre who always does plenty of gardening , he is a small guy so that about it effecting small rider's does not hold up as far as i am concerned. Call them up to the tapes and go. It make you wonder if the bspa no what they are doing or am i being to critical. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
screm 8,055 Posted March 28, 2018 To be honest I`m not to fussed about this rule being reversed, though its a bit embarrassing for it to happen so soon. If the promoters are really looking at speedway up meetings then the time gap between heats needs to be quicker as IMo there is no reason as the last rider leaves the track from one heat the two minute warning could be started for the next. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alan_Jones 1,005 Posted March 28, 2018 1 hour ago, screm said: To be honest I`m not to fussed about this rule being reversed, though its a bit embarrassing for it to happen so soon. It's surprising that it took so long. Last year the exact same change was made before the season started. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
old bob at herne bay 828 Posted March 28, 2018 Having watched DVDs of wold championship speedway from the70's and 80's and watching the starting techniques that existed then - i see nothing wrong wiht allowing the riders to roll creep push the tapes and the ref letting the tapes up when he feels like it . IF the rider breaks the tape you are EXCLUDED (no 15m handicap nonsense) I am absolutely fed up with the riders dictating the rules of the sport to the detriment of the entertainment of the public. Why dont they provide the b****y riders with shovels at the start so they can dig the b***Y track up to their satisfaction ?????? Meetings take TOO long to complete only 15 heats - Gardening and Track Grading are two of the main reasons I rarely go to a speedway meeting nowadays. If they tarmac the start or even better concrete the start areas it would put an end to all this nonsense. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
