2 minute start clocks

[Woz01 3,589]

50 minutes ago, Fromafar said:

A 2 min clock seems an obvious answer,surely most Clubs could get a Sponser for that.What does it matter what the riders do at the starting gate as long as they are ready to race before the clock counts down.Seems to work well at GP's.Another complication invented by BSPA.!!!

Just about to post the same, surely it's a good place to whack a bit of sponsorship on considering fans (and tv) will look at it!

[Najjer 2,881]

You could actually make one for very little. Just have a digital output screen (the only cost involved) big enough for the numbers to count down on, and write a simple program on a computer that is displayed on the screen. Simple as that!

[f-s-p 832]

1 hour ago, Najjer said:

Sorry - I can't make any sense of the last sentence? 

Just looking on amazon very quickly earlier, I found some for between $200 and $500.

Too good, too pro(fessional). EDIT: Like you say, it can be done cheaper and would still fit the bill.

 

Edited March 20, 2018 by f-s-p

[f-s-p 832]

If you want to speed up the meetings by cutting the "gardening" time, you should sent the riders out with shovels and rakes. Then the start tart could hold the bike while the Groove is finished. Would actually save  A LOT OF TIME!!  

[cityrebel 2,960]

You'd need a pneumatic drill to generate some dirt on the start line at rye house!

[f-s-p 832]

1 hour ago, cityrebel said:

You'd need a pneumatic drill to generate some dirt on the start line at rye house!

Well... why not!

[sparks123 147]

On 20 March 2018 at 1:16 PM, f-s-p said:

And it a stupid rule, isnt it as it does nothing towards solving the problem which is a 2-3 hour long 15 heats of speedway. The thing that it does is put Zagar and Dwarfar on an un-equal position when it comes to gating.

We had a clock in Finland last season, it would have cost about 1400€ new. The ref wrote in his report that it did bring somesort of peace or similar to the proceedings and heats were on their way about 15 secs earlier. Thats about 3 mins off if you think about the problem that is the  roughly 150 mins of a 15 heat meeting. If the ref would just put the clock on, exclude if necessary for going over the limit everything would be sorted in weeks. Would have been years ago. Refs are the problem, not riders.

Why not just use the 2 minute flashing light at the starting gate.  It will cancel after 2 minutes and if the rider ignores the start marshal they are excluded.  All teams will have this function already in place so won't cost the clubs anything.

A point Tai made regarding Zagar at his talk in was interesting.  There is no minimum rider/bike limit so someone like Zagar will probably be 10-15 kg heavier than someone like Rohan.  Therefore there is no rule to help Zagar so why do people want the rule changed to help shorter riders?

[Aces51 2,778]

3 hours ago, sparks123 said:

Why not just use the 2 minute flashing light at the starting gate.  It will cancel after 2 minutes and if the rider ignores the start marshal they are excluded.  All teams will have this function already in place so won't cost the clubs anything.

A point Tai made regarding Zagar at his talk in was interesting.  There is no minimum rider/bike limit so someone like Zagar will probably be 10-15 kg heavier than someone like Rohan.  Therefore there is no rule to help Zagar so why do people want the rule changed to help shorter riders?

The point here is that the new rule is unnecessary.  It was introduced as a remedy to try to reduce delays at the starring gate but as many have said, you can achieve the same end result by using a time clock, the best option, or by the referee simply enforcing the 2 minutes allowed. So why discriminate against the shorter riders when there are options that show you don't need to do so. We had a rule which was generally in common with other Speedway nations and now we have changed it and are unnecessarily out of line with everybody else.   

[Fromafar 10,333]

22 minutes ago, Aces51 said:

The point here is that the new rule is unnecessary.  It was introduced as a remedy to try to reduce delays at the starring gate but as many have said, you can achieve the same end result by using a time clock, the best option, or by the referee simply enforcing the 2 minutes allowed. So why discriminate against the shorter riders when there are options that show you don't need to do so. We had a rule which was generally in common with other Speedway nations and now we have changed it and are unnecessarily out of line with everybody else.   

Exactly!

[ouch 1,191]

Are there any riders in the top tier shorter than Tungate & Bewley?

[f-s-p 832]

5 hours ago, sparks123 said:

Why not just use the 2 minute flashing light at the starting gate.  It will cancel after 2 minutes and if the rider ignores the start marshal they are excluded.  All teams will have this function already in place so won't cost the clubs anything.

A point Tai made regarding Zagar at his talk in was interesting.  There is no minimum rider/bike limit so someone like Zagar will probably be 10-15 kg heavier than someone like Rohan.  Therefore there is no rule to help Zagar so why do people want the rule changed to help shorter riders?

You could do that, yes. But it does nothing to speed up the meeting. I might be wrong with this one, but arent UK league rules so, that as two mins are up, you need to be under starting marshalls orders?? What ever that means, but most likely extra 10-20 secs before green light is on.  Over here and in the GP when two mins is up, you need to be ready to start at the tapes.

[A ORLOV 8,628]

8 minutes ago, f-s-p said:

You could do that, yes. But it does nothing to speed up the meeting. I might be wrong with this one, but arent UK league rules so, that as two mins are up, you need to be under starting marshalls orders?? What ever that means, but most likely extra 10-20 secs before green light is on.  Over here and in the GP when two mins is up, you need to be ready to start at the tapes.

No the two mins limit means the rider needs to be on the track at or heading straight to the tapes.  If he were on the track heading for the tapes then started gardening he can be excluded. This is how it was last year, have no idea if that was changed for this  

[wealdstone 3,454]

I thought that you had to be under power and on way to tapes

[hyabb17 1,077]

Swindon have one. Just left the meeting tonight, we did have one last season as well