00000 1,279 Posted May 12, 2020 2 hours ago, PHILIPRISING said: TRIO of World Champions in SS this week... Bartosz Zmarzlik, Tai Woffinden and Bruce Penhall. Plus much more. looking forward to that..still got loads to read from last week. I read it bit by bit to get a speedway fix every day. Stunning effort from you all a SS. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tyke 270 Posted May 12, 2020 On 5/11/2020 at 7:59 PM, tyke said: Not seen mine either in West Yorkshire. Will call SS towers tomrorrow Arrived today 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
craigACE 91 Posted May 12, 2020 55 minutes ago, Richard Weston said: looking forward to that..still got loads to read from last week. I read it bit by bit to get a speedway fix every day. Stunning effort from you all a SS. Good idea that. My way is to read it twice. Then i bag a big bundle every few months. Whilst doing that i have another flick through. Suppose i get my moneys worth. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mikebv 10,162 Posted May 13, 2020 (edited) On 5/11/2020 at 12:45 PM, topaz325 said: Me to. Hopefully will arrive today? Just read the interview with Michelsen.... He says he has spent £55,000 on equipment.. Wow.... The sport really needs to give it's head a wobble doesnt it? Edit. Another fantastic publication to add to the many recently... Edited May 13, 2020 by mikebv Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IronScorpion 1,399 Posted May 13, 2020 How much of that was on the van & was it paid for by sponsors! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mikebv 10,162 Posted May 13, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, IronScorpion said: How much of that was on the van & was it paid for by sponsors! He said he had 'invested 55k' into his equipment (inc van) and needed now to earn money as "that money has now gone and I now need to get some money back in".. A couple of weeks ago Charles Wright said in the Star, depending on your level, you will spend between 10k to 30k... Staggering amounts for such a small minority sport whereby many of the participants are not doing it 'for the love of it' as a hobby, like many others do in motorsport, but instead expect to be paid as professionals, with the reasonable expectation being, (I presume), to show a decent return on their investment... Edited May 13, 2020 by mikebv Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DC2 11,150 Posted May 13, 2020 4 minutes ago, mikebv said: He said he had 'invested 55k' into his equipment (inc van) and needed now to earn money as "that money has now gone and I now need to get some money back in".. A couple of weeks ago Charles Wright said in the Star, depending on your level, you will spend between 10k to 30k... You might say you’ve “invested” £30k in a van when in reality you’ve paid a £1,000 deposit and £200 a month. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
topaz325 1,827 Posted May 13, 2020 2 hours ago, mikebv said: Just read the interview with Michelsen.... He says he has spent £55,000 on equipment.. Wow.... The sport really needs to give it's head a wobble doesnt it? Edit. Another fantastic publication to add to the many recently... Still waiting for last weeks, had to phone Pinegen yesterday to send out another copy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pirate Rich 40 Posted May 13, 2020 I've been taking the Star since the early 70's, firstly ordered through my local newsagent, more recently on postal subscription, then last week for the first time on digital subscription. Like, I suspect many others, I was wary of "going digital" but because of the post being a bit unreliable in these difficult times I thought I'd give it a go. Wow! I wish I'd done it years ago, ok it feels a bit weird at first not having a paper copy in your hand, but you soon get over that and a big plus if your reading on a tablet and the print is a bit small you can just enlarge it to suit (useful for us old 'uns!) also great to have instant access to back issues. Anybody thinking about digital, I would say, try it, I don't think you'll regret it, and your copy is there first thing every Thursday, guaranteed! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PHILIPRISING 7,298 Posted May 13, 2020 44 minutes ago, Pirate Rich said: I've been taking the Star since the early 70's, firstly ordered through my local newsagent, more recently on postal subscription, then last week for the first time on digital subscription. Like, I suspect many others, I was wary of "going digital" but because of the post being a bit unreliable in these difficult times I thought I'd give it a go. Wow! I wish I'd done it years ago, ok it feels a bit weird at first not having a paper copy in your hand, but you soon get over that and a big plus if your reading on a tablet and the print is a bit small you can just enlarge it to suit (useful for us old 'uns!) also great to have instant access to back issues. Anybody thinking about digital, I would say, try it, I don't think you'll regret it, and your copy is there first thing every Thursday, guaranteed! ALL very true ... and once again our sincere thanks to everyone who is sticking by SS through these difficult times.It is much appreciated. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
topaz325 1,827 Posted May 13, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Pirate Rich said: I've been taking the Star since the early 70's, firstly ordered through my local newsagent, more recently on postal subscription, then last week for the first time on digital subscription. Like, I suspect many others, I was wary of "going digital" but because of the post being a bit unreliable in these difficult times I thought I'd give it a go. Wow! I wish I'd done it years ago, ok it feels a bit weird at first not having a paper copy in your hand, but you soon get over that and a big plus if your reading on a tablet and the print is a bit small you can just enlarge it to suit (useful for us old 'uns!) also great to have instant access to back issues. Anybody thinking about digital, I would say, try it, I don't think you'll regret it, and your copy is there first thing every Thursday, guaranteed! Appreciate what you are saying but spend far to much time looking at screens, prefer paper copy. Although it might save some trees....if recycled paper is not used. Edited May 13, 2020 by topaz325 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RobMcCaffery 2,752 Posted May 13, 2020 2 hours ago, PHILIPRISING said: ALL very true ... and once again our sincere thanks to everyone who is sticking by SS through these difficult times.It is much appreciated. Thank you for battling on. We're still getting a very readable magazine. I can imagine what you are going through. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fromafar 10,224 Posted May 13, 2020 8 hours ago, mikebv said: He said he had 'invested 55k' into his equipment (inc van) and needed now to earn money as "that money has now gone and I now need to get some money back in".. A couple of weeks ago Charles Wright said in the Star, depending on your level, you will spend between 10k to 30k... Staggering amounts for such a small minority sport whereby many of the participants are not doing it 'for the love of it' as a hobby, like many others do in motorsport, but instead expect to be paid as professionals, with the reasonable expectation being, (I presume), to show a decent return on their investment... When you look at the money available I Poland for top men ,they are making a good living.(if the money gets paid).Signing on fees cover most of their initial outlay. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sommelier 1,118 Posted May 14, 2020 15 hours ago, mikebv said: He said he had 'invested 55k' into his equipment (inc van) and needed now to earn money as "that money has now gone and I now need to get some money back in".. A couple of weeks ago Charles Wright said in the Star, depending on your level, you will spend between 10k to 30k... Staggering amounts for such a small minority sport whereby many of the participants are not doing it 'for the love of it' as a hobby, like many others do in motorsport, but instead expect to be paid as professionals, with the reasonable expectation being, (I presume), to show a decent return on their investment... Regarding Charles Wright, 10K to 30K, you would need to invest far more than that to be competitive for a season equipment alone. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mikebv 10,162 Posted May 14, 2020 2 hours ago, sommelier said: Regarding Charles Wright, 10K to 30K, you would need to invest far more than that to be competitive for a season equipment alone. Wow. Really? I presume Charles must be the '30k' rider he descibes given his level.. (?) And 30k is still a staggering amount to outlay to compete in competitions that will often have a good deal less than 1000 people watching, (never mind paying out 'far more' as you suggest)... If you DU you will be racing around 70 to 80 times a season so a grand a night would be pretty much the minimum on average you would need I would think to make an outlay like that worth your while... And you can also see why DU (and guesting as well), needs to be available as you can't see either league being sufficient in isolation over here, to justify that amount of money being spent (unless you have overseas contracts).. I presume that kit will then get sold on at the end of the season to help finance the purchase of new for the following year? If so that will offset some individuals costs obviously, but even so there must still be collectively an astonishing amount of money overall being spent each year.. All to seemingly win an ultimate race to the bottom when you look at the attendance levels, track closures over the past few years, vast sums of money put in by some promoters to stay open, and general interest in the sport over here.. Surely reducing these costs (by significant numbers) to compete, must be the largest priority to assist the sports future? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites