DunRobin 465 Posted April 14, 2018 6 minutes ago, sugarray said: Neil Vatcher tried to stop it but got overruled by the BSPA as usual. It didn't make any sense that rule, the gardening has to be done within the 2 min rule so what is the problem. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
foamfence 2,917 Posted April 14, 2018 6 minutes ago, DunRobin said: It didn't make any sense that rule, the gardening has to be done within the 2 min rule so what is the problem. The 'problem' is two minutes of gardening and one minute of racing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
New Science 1,059 Posted April 14, 2018 58 minutes ago, foamfence said: The 'problem' is two minutes of gardening and one minute of racing. You have the 2 minutes time allowance to do what you want. You can stop all the gardening you want but the 2 minutes time allowance will still be there and riders will use all of it Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
foamfence 2,917 Posted April 14, 2018 18 minutes ago, New Science said: You have the 2 minutes time allowance to do what you want. You can stop all the gardening you want but the 2 minutes time allowance will still be there and riders will use all of it And people will stay away. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lisa-colette 5,993 Posted April 14, 2018 1 hour ago, foamfence said: And people will stay away. I doubt that is the reason people stay away!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
foamfence 2,917 Posted April 14, 2018 6 minutes ago, lisa-colette said: I doubt that is the reason people stay away!! Well It's one of the combination. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bald Bloke 3,280 Posted April 14, 2018 (edited) Tracks should have a 2 minute clock on the centre green..Do what you like within the 2 mins. Note that don't mean 2 mins of doing the garden in  nearly all cases.Most riders get up to the tapes with a minute or less on the clock.Well if there was one, that is.. Edited April 14, 2018 by Bald Bloke 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ray c 2,299 Posted April 14, 2018 3 hours ago, lisa-colette said: I doubt that is the reason people stay away!! Quite agree dont think that is any reason why people are not going to speedway part and parcel i think Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
New Science 1,059 Posted April 15, 2018 (edited) 22 hours ago, foamfence said: And people will stay away. The 2 minute time allowance has been around for decades. That is not the reason why people have walked away from the sport. Edited April 15, 2018 by New Science Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
foamfence 2,917 Posted April 15, 2018 55 minutes ago, New Science said: The 2 minute time allowance has been around for decades. That is not the reason why people have walked away from the sport. It used to be a maximum allowance, now it's taken as normal. You don't know why everyone has walked away from the sport, I did say that it was one of a combination of things. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
A ORLOV 8,628 Posted April 15, 2018 2 minutes ago, foamfence said: It used to be a maximum allowance, now it's taken as normal. You don't know why everyone has walked away from the sport, I did say that it was one of a combination of things. That is what some of the refs say, they would rather get the race away as soon as the riders are at the tapes.  Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Steve Shovlar 10,424 Posted April 15, 2018 (edited) Quite simple. The countdown clock is for 2 mins. Riders must be in position waiting for green light at zero. At zero the green light comes on. If a riders front wheel isn’t in position and rider ready to drop clutch, they are out. Edited April 15, 2018 by Steve Shovlar 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Catalan 710 Posted April 15, 2018 Agree with that Steve. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lisa-colette 5,993 Posted April 15, 2018 I would say price, lack of top riders, day of meeting, prep of track has more of a bearing of why people stop going to meetings. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Steve Shovlar 10,424 Posted April 15, 2018 28 minutes ago, sugarray said: Agree with that Steve. It would cut out the start marshall having to order the riders to tapes. If the rider isn’t there, they are out. The riders attitude at tapes would be sorted in an instant. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites