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Fixed race nights... early indications!!!

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5 hours ago, RobMcCaffery said:

To even begin to follow that path there has to be a massive change in attitude in all corners of the sport. Somehow, despite all that has decayed so far I don't think there is the will, intelligence or integrity to tackle the job .... yet. 

In my opinion there definitely isn't. And will not be until the sport has collapsed in on itself, black hole style, in the UK. The BSPA and a number of others really seem to believe that"there is not much wrong with it" and carry on regardless. Foolishly thinking that the next rule change or re-naming will bring a flood of new fans, sponsors and loadsa money!

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Oops, sorry, thought this thread was about a Matt Ford betting probe? Still, they’re bound to get more than 35 at Blunsdon today? :)

 

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Whilst there are many problems, the single biggest problem is the cost. I know many people who are interested in going and when they hear it's £17 to get in are horrified.

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7 minutes ago, Najjer said:

Whilst there are many problems, the single biggest problem is the cost. I know many people who are interested in going and when they hear it's £17 to get in are horrified.

Many years ago, I remember Terry Russell telling us that Speedway was a £10 sport and he was absolutely right, perhaps a man ahead of his time... the trouble is that at that time we were paying around £7 at the turnstiles. Today it should be a £10 sport

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Just now, iainb said:

Many years ago, I remember Terry Russell telling us that Speedway was a £10 sport and he was absolutely right, perhaps a man ahead of his time... the trouble is that at that time we were paying around £7 at the turnstiles. Today it should be a £10 sport

Pretty sure it was the same person who also said it should be a £20 Sport when it cost about £12 at BV..:D

To back up his rationale he quoted how much it cost to watch a show in the West End and how much it cost to watch Premier League Football in London...

Who said Britain doesn't do great comedy anymore?...:D:rolleyes:

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7 hours ago, Daytripper said:

Its no good spending the best part of a million quid to bring new fans through the turnstiles, if the  product on offer is do poor it can't even hold on to the existing fanbase.

Unless and until the governance and management is put on a sound footing its a waste of time spending money to bring in fans that won't stay.

Agree 100%....

Unfortunately I don't think the Sport can wait until Hell freezers over...!

It does though need a much increased fanbase and NOW..

The incredible irony is of course, that rather than work collectively to improve the 'Brand' of British Speedway, the promoters seem to (perpetually), try and gain (individualy), every little ounce of advantage from the Mickey Mouse rules they contrive to make up..

All to win Competitions, which by their very own Operating Models, have almost zero credibility and kudos..

Somebody needs to give it direction and do it quickly..

National Promotion and Marketing. National Collective Merchandise Sales. National Collective Ticket Sales...

Start selling the four lads racing. Start selling the 'Speedway Brand'. Start having credibility and integrity..

Must be a chance for the Sport over here if they do that..?

 

 

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30 minutes ago, Najjer said:

Whilst there are many problems, the single biggest problem is the cost. I know many people who are interested in going and when they hear it's £17 to get in are horrified.

Agree. Although it's worth pointing out, talking of the Premiership, that only Somerset, Swindon and Leicester charge £17. The other five are all £18! (the racing must be better at those stadiums :-) )

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4 minutes ago, Harry The Goat said:

Agree. Although it's worth pointing out, talking of the Premiership, that only Somerset, Swindon and Leicester charge £17. The other five are all £18! (the racing must be better at those stadiums :-) )

 

It’s definitely better at Poole when Swindon are there! :)

 

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43 minutes ago, Harry The Goat said:

Agree. Although it's worth pointing out, talking of the Premiership, that only Somerset, Swindon and Leicester charge £17. The other five are all £18! (the racing must be better at those stadiums :-) )

Well it must be the racing at Rye House thats worth £18 because it certainly isnt the facilities provided for the fans that are :lol:;)

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I think people would be happy to spend £17 - £18 per meeting IF they got value for their hard earned cash. I'm sorry but £18 for FIFTEEN minutes of racing is not going to be called value for money 98% of the time. Hell, ratio that up to a Premiership football match and it even makes those ridiculously overpriced tickets seem value in comparison (£50 for 90 mins of action).

 

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Perhaps they should try a different and  even better marketing ploy ( that sometime works elsewhere ). Seated tickets to be £50 and standing £25. It could then be sold as something exclusive and up market. Well they have tried everything else!

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5 hours ago, waytogo28 said:

Perhaps they should try a different and  even better marketing ploy ( that sometime works elsewhere ). Seated tickets to be £50 and standing £25. It could then be sold as something exclusive and up market. Well they have tried everything else!

Unfortunately nothing upmarket as far as speedway is concerned otherwise each GP would be sold out. It does not work at the highest level and league speedway is a long way short. It is simply not a spectacle that some would have you believe and is way down the list on the must spend when it comes to disposal income. It has too many rules for a simple sport and the rider skills do not exist with bikes too powerful for the tracks. Standardise the bikes, improve rider skills, forget the other speedway nations and charge £10 per adult, £1.00 for under 16’s with weekly meetings on race nights that will attract the best crowds (probably Thursday, Friday, Saturday and Sunday) and get back to basics so as to attract new talent then you might have some hope. As it stands clubs who cannot afford to run two home and away meetings because they think they might survive with fewer meetings are delusional and running on a night that does not bring in the punters is financial suicide. 

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10 hours ago, Hawk127 said:

Unfortunately nothing upmarket as far as speedway is concerned otherwise each GP would be sold out. It does not work at the highest level and league speedway is a long way short. It is simply not a spectacle that some would have you believe and is way down the list on the must spend when it comes to disposal income. It has too many rules for a simple sport and the rider skills do not exist with bikes too powerful for the tracks. Standardise the bikes, improve rider skills, forget the other speedway nations and charge £10 per adult, £1.00 for under 16’s with weekly meetings on race nights that will attract the best crowds (probably Thursday, Friday, Saturday and Sunday) and get back to basics so as to attract new talent then you might have some hope. As it stands clubs who cannot afford to run two home and away meetings because they think they might survive with fewer meetings are delusional and running on a night that does not bring in the punters is financial suicide. 

Fully agree with that. I was writing very tongue in cheek. And if the above ideas can't turn around / save speedway, then nothing can. It would be easier to work with standardised 250cc bikes as nothing more powerful is required. But of course the "powers that be currently, just won't even consider such changes.

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Just look at the crowd at Rye yesterday, Wednesday is madness that could close the club, still at least Woffy, Hancock, Pedersen etc are all back gracing British speedway after moaning for years about needing a fixed race night in England. 

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I paid £25 to watch Arsenal v Burnley on Sunday and £18 to watch Rye yesterday. Football has decent facilities and runs like clockwork. Despite some good racing yesterday, sitting in a building site getting covered in dust for 2 and a half hours does not appeal to everyone. Unless speedway promoters improve the overall product, the punters will never come back.

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