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Fixed race nights... early indications!!!

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10 hours ago, Najjer said:

So, which teams aren't actually happy with fixed race nights? It seems crowds aren't good at Belle Vue and Rye House is reports are to be believed. Although we haven't had many meetings at home for one reason or another, Somerset's crowds appear to be good. It'll be interesting to see how that continues into the summer. I think it was a blessing in disguise moving away from Fridays and the dreaded M5 traffic personally.

Poole, Kings Lynn (albeit with the cock up of the missing Danish riders), Wolves and Swindon have all maintained their original race night so they can only gain by not having missing riders galore as per previous seasons. So that only leaves Leicester, who I'm not sure how they are faring with the switch?

Somerset’s crowds looked down on last year to me based on the first 2 meetings. Not sure what  the crowd was like tonight ?

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7 hours ago, Always a RACER said:

Somerset’s crowds looked down on last year to me based on the first 2 meetings. Not sure what  the crowd was like tonight ?

Probably the biggest of the 3 meetings so far, but I thought all 3 crowds had been good so far.

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4 minutes ago, Najjer said:

Probably the biggest of the 3 meetings so far, but I thought all 3 crowds had been good so far.

They'll need to watch it, though. More meeting like that, with people hanging around while tractors go round, and crowds will drop. People aren't going to pay money to be bored for 45 minutes. (I wasn't there, by the way, but basing this on comments on updates and on here).

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47 minutes ago, Grachan said:

They'll need to watch it, though. More meeting like that, with people hanging around while tractors go round, and crowds will drop. People aren't going to pay money to be bored for 45 minutes. (I wasn't there, by the way, but basing this on comments on updates and on here).

2 meetings in a row now - even the most loyal die hards will of been fed up at that.

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10 hours ago, Daniel Smith said:

Where are the rider's to come from on those days?

Friday - Sunday is Poland, GP's, SEC all qualifiers etc.

Wednesday's are Denmark. 

Monday - Thursday are the best days all round. 

Doubling up. In practice few if any would initially run on Sunday except probably Newcastle, nobody would do Tuesday, and if a club wanted to run on a Wednesday such as Poole they would avoid employing Danes or at least only have one or two. Saturdays & Sundays seems to be falling out of favour anyway except for NL clubs. So  it would probably over time become one Mondays&Wednesdays league, and one Thursdays&Fridays league. I think it would help the NL too.

On second thoughts though, playoff matches involving crossovers between the leagues wouldn't work, it would have to be the two league winners in a grand final although playoffs could be used to determine the two league winners.

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It seems that long tractor heroics do relatively little anyway to improve the racing anywhere. So it must be about selling drinks and food. Driving people away to make a few extra quid now seems idiotic and short sighted. That seems to be the case at King's Lynn. Reducing crowd levels that way for almost no gain is pointless.

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Decent crowds so far at The Abbey, doubt if a Monday cup match against Rye will pack them in though.

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The majority of fans on this forum were calling for fixed race nights for the last 2 seasons.Now the powers that be give the fans fixed race nights a lot are saying they should never have bee brought in you can't win with some people

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11 minutes ago, Booey boy said:

The majority of fans on this forum were calling for fixed race nights for the last 2 seasons.Now the powers that be give the fans fixed race nights a lot are saying they should never have bee brought in you can't win with some people

Yes but we was fed a lie. Was told by riders they would come back if fixed race nights. But they Fed us a lie. 

 

And then the BSPA say only 1 rider over 8. So again fed a dud. 

 

It could work but not on the nights picked 

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1 hour ago, Phil The Ace said:

Yes but we was fed a lie. Was told by riders they would come back if fixed race nights. But they Fed us a lie. 

 

And then the BSPA say only 1 rider over 8. So again fed a dud. 

 

It could work but not on the nights picked 

Agreed they improved it then cocked it up with only 1 rider over 8 allowed and a last min change from thurs to wed. 

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People say "give me good racing"

People say "give me a great racer"

Well Belle Vue have the best race track (perhaps bar Hackney and Peterborough) for years and Dan Bewley "the most exciting rider perhaps since Mark Loram or Kenny Carter" and apparently the crowds are well down.

What part of the above is hard to understand

SCRAP FIXED RACE NIGHTS

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14 minutes ago, Rayleigh said:

People say "give me good racing"

People say "give me a great racer"

Well Belle Vue have the best race track (perhaps bar Hackney and Peterborough) for years and Dan Bewley "the most exciting rider perhaps since Mark Loram or Kenny Carter" and apparently the crowds are well down.

What part of the above is hard to understand

SCRAP FIXED RACE NIGHTS

Hackney !!! wouldn`t be anywhere in my list of good race tracks.

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2 hours ago, Phil The Ace said:

Yes but we was fed a lie. Was told by riders they would come back if fixed race nights. But they Fed us a lie. 

 

And then the BSPA say only 1 rider over 8. So again fed a dud. 

 

It could work but not on the nights picked 

I still don't think they would come back not for what was being payed over here

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Bring in fixed race night's Monday, Thursday & Friday.

Premiership takes rider priority over Championship fixtures.

Rider's racing in Polish Ekstraliga on Friday fixtures are granted a facility.

Monday - Wolverhampton 

Thursday - King's Lynn, Poole (Swindon)

Friday - Belle Vue, Somerset, Leicester (Rye House)

Questions remain over Rye House and Swindon's future. Other clubs may want to step up.

If neither come to tapes in 2019 it will be 1 big league, home and away twice, no cup matches. The fixed race night's can still come into play as weekend fixtures are getting less in the Championship. 

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