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On 18/05/2018 at 11:17 AM, lucifer sam said:

Don't be daft.

You've got this dangerous 'us' and 'them' mentality when it comes to the two leagues.

It's about both leagues working together.  And also about neither thinking they're more important than the other one.

 

That's where you're wrong though - the Premiership is MORE important as it's the top division in this Country. You wouldn't anybody in their right mind say the Championship is more important than the Premiership in football!

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14 minutes ago, Wolfie456 said:

Your right everything has to suit Belle Vue and their new stadium :angry:.

You might want to ask yourself why only Wolves had a Monday race night when teams we free to choose.

You might want to ask yourself why the entertainment industry regards Monday as the worst night of the week to get people to attend.

You might want to ask yourself why crowds dropped at the dog track when we had to move from Friday to Monday.

You might want to consider that attitudes to keeping children out late on school nights has changed since clubs like Wimbledon were operating.

You might want to ask yourself why our previous promotion said there was no future for the Aces unless we could build a new stadium and change our race night to Friday

You might want to ask yourself why crowds have dropped so significantly at the NSS this year when the only change is the race night.

You might want to ask yourself if you want to put at risk the future of the NSS.

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22 minutes ago, Wolfie456 said:

Your right everything has to suit Belle Vue and their new stadium :angry:.

We only want to race on our chosen race night like, er Wolves. Poole also have their chosen race night and KL did Wednesday before while Swindon have the majority of their meetings when they want them. 

As soon as we want the same it’s us being awkward. LOL. 

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3 hours ago, Steve Shovlar said:

Disagree. For those that work for someone, Sundays can be a day of dread knowing they have to bow to their boss in the morning. Monday speedway gives something to look forward to.

Tuesdays in Sweden seems to work ok. Poole on a Wednesday is fine. Promotions just need to promote.

I did 10 years in an office (when I was a banker) and, even though looking back it was a decent job, I never liked Sunday evening. The weekend build up started on Wednesday for me and by the time Monday arrived there was no enthusiasm or interest for going out other than tesco for the shopping.

Luckily the bank made me enough to be able to do something a lot more interesting and 9-5 is a distant memory. Mondays make no difference to me but it does seem to have had (as I said it would) a negative effect on speedway crowds.

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Enough kids roaming the streets in packs at night, say until 11pm ish, so don't get the snowflakes have to be home every night doing homework, then bed for 10pm!!!

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2 hours ago, Aces51 said:

You might want to ask yourself why only Wolves had a Monday race night when teams we free to choose.

You might want to ask yourself why the entertainment industry regards Monday as the worst night of the week to get people to attend.

You might want to ask yourself why crowds dropped at the dog track when we had to move from Friday to Monday.

You might want to consider that attitudes to keeping children out late on school nights has changed since clubs like Wimbledon were operating.

You might want to ask yourself why our previous promotion said there was no future for the Aces unless we could build a new stadium and change our race night to Friday

You might want to ask yourself why crowds have dropped so significantly at the NSS this year when the only change is the race night.

You might want to ask yourself if you want to put at risk the future of the NSS.

Easy drop down to the championship were you can ride any night you choose and have the largest crowds in that league. That would keep a certain few like flange  happy.

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2 hours ago, Aces51 said:

You might want to ask yourself why only Wolves had a Monday race night when teams we free to choose.

You might want to ask yourself why the entertainment industry regards Monday as the worst night of the week to get people to attend.

You might want to ask yourself why crowds dropped at the dog track when we had to move from Friday to Monday.

You might want to consider that attitudes to keeping children out late on school nights has changed since clubs like Wimbledon were operating.

You might want to ask yourself why our previous promotion said there was no future for the Aces unless we could build a new stadium and change our race night to Friday

You might want to ask yourself why crowds have dropped so significantly at the NSS this year when the only change is the race night.

You might want to ask yourself if you want to put at risk the future of the NSS.

 

Ah, love Talking Heads ..... not quite sure you’ve nailed the lyrics though! :)

 

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29 minutes ago, Wolfie456 said:

Easy drop down to the championship were you can ride any night you choose and have the largest crowds in that league. That would keep a certain few like flange  happy.

I predicted you would miss the big picture, lol!

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5 hours ago, Rob B said:

Yep the three figure crowds at Wolves are great.

Yet again after years of ok on Mondays why it somehow a problem now ..really odd mind set from Belle vue fans .its not working on a Monday for  them so now wolves poor crowds after about 33 years are now because of Mondays. 

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Most places can get good crowds in on a Monday with a bit of promotion and ticket offer of some sorts. Seen plenty of big crowds at Swindon on a Monday over the years, Wolves have always run on a Monday. So it’s clearly not a case of people just simply not wanting to go out somewhere on a Monday evening. The people are out there, they just need enticing in. I don’t get what goes on in Manchester on a Monday night that keeps everyone away?! To be honest I think there’s too much to compete with most weekends these days, in amongst other sports, shopping, household jobs and socialising. Week days might not get much travelling support but it should be fine for a majority of local supporters, which really is the bread and butter of any club.

As orion says, if it was cut and dry case of weekend matches and semi pro riders pulling the fans in each week, National League crowds should be heaving.

They simply aren’t.

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2 hours ago, Speedy swindon pete said:

Most places can get good crowds in on a Monday with a bit of promotion and ticket offer of some sorts. Seen plenty of big crowds at Swindon on a Monday over the years, Wolves have always run on a Monday. So it’s clearly not a case of people just simply not wanting to go out somewhere on a Monday evening. The people are out there, they just need enticing in. I don’t get what goes on in Manchester on a Monday night that keeps everyone away?! To be honest I think there’s too much to compete with most weekends these days, in amongst other sports, shopping, household jobs and socialising. Week days might not get much travelling support but it should be fine for a majority of local supporters, which really is the bread and butter of any club.

As orion says, if it was cut and dry case of weekend matches and semi pro riders pulling the fans in each week, National League crowds should be heaving.

They simply aren’t.

There were very good crowds at mildenhall yesterday and Kent tonight. So it's not all doom and gloom.

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15 minutes ago, cityrebel said:

There were very good crowds at mildenhall yesterday and Kent tonight. So it's not all doom and gloom.

What is this year's definition of a "good crowd" as in attendance at the Speedway? PL? CL? & NL? 

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I would say 1500 PL, 1000 CL and 500 NL. I doubt that many tracks are getting those numbers on a regular basis.

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It was thought to be considerably less than 1500 at the NSS on Monday night V KL Stars.

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I'd say, they'd be poor figures at PL/EL 5 yrs ago, more like 1,500 for CL/Old PL around 5 yrs ago..... 

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