speedy bill 154 Posted June 3, 2018 (edited) Why do we allow teams to run foreign riders at reserve instead of giving British riders the places,it worked in 2014 so why not now.I dont think the Poles run foreign ridrs at reserve . I also cant understand why Josh Auty has not got a place in the premiership,he is third in the championship averages and still without a team spot are some promoters daft to let a talented rider out of a team spot.ANY thought why this is guys. Edited June 3, 2018 by speedy bill 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bald Bloke 3,281 Posted June 3, 2018 I don't know what his Prem ave would be right now, if he was signed.Up and down in the Prem before if I remember.. Can easy win a race as come last. Would make a good reserve, if he stayed there. Not likely though. To good. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevebrum 6,819 Posted June 3, 2018 Auty has failed at top flight level over and over again. that said I prefer him to be a reserve than a foreigner. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sidney the robin 4,735 Posted June 3, 2018 5 minutes ago, stevebrum said: Auty has failed at top flight level over and over again. that said I prefer him to be a reserve than a foreigner. Still a better rider than Kyle Howarth though Steve, he took him from the back at his home track Sheffield in the WC semi. Also Auty has more of a chance than Howarth at Belle Vue of mixing it and being a spoiler in the British Final. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
g13webb 4,254 Posted June 4, 2018 Two issues here Sidney, and I agree with you on both, Josh Auty has ridden for the Stars and done well. He is far too good a rider no to have a team place, but probably the averages are too high and promoters feel they can get better value elsewhere. I don't Know, but he is more than capable rider..... Allowing foreigners into the reserve slots is crazy. These places should be the gateway for British riders gaining experience and upping their game. We have a new rider in Jasper Andersen at reserve, Nice lad, but he is no better than lots of young English riders. Surely it would have been better for our sport to look the future and supply our own riders with opportunities ...... These BSPA people, never rule things as one would imagine they should.. .... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bagpuss 10,686 Posted June 4, 2018 6 hours ago, stevebrum said: Auty has failed at top flight level over and over again. that said I prefer him to be a reserve than a foreigner. Nail on head. I certainly wouldn't argue against reserves all being Brits. Josh Auty's top league average is 4.68 so it's not too high. Howarth started the season on 6.64 so the two can't be compared as first division riders. I just don't think promoters feel that Auty can be relied upon to be consistent. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
waytogo28 2,054 Posted June 4, 2018 37 minutes ago, g13webb said: These BSPA people, never rule things as one would imagine they should. Nor have sufficient imagination to devise changes that benefit the sport. Fan feedback is futile, however positive ( it's all taken as criticism, which always hurts the thin skinned ). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ray c 2,299 Posted June 4, 2018 Poole got two poles riding at reserve in the latest averages what chance have young British got when this happens because of averages . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DC2 11,150 Posted June 4, 2018 10 minutes ago, ray c said: Poole got two poles riding at reserve in the latest averages what chance have young British got when this happens because of averages . You could have Jacobs and Perks instead of those two, but that’s not the Poole mentality! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BluPanther 21,637 Posted June 4, 2018 4 minutes ago, DC2 said: You could have Jacobs and Perks instead of those two, but that’s not the Poole mentality! Why would any team choose Jacobs and Perks over Woryna and Szczepaniak ! Considering no one has signed either of them i would suggest its every teams mentality ... 6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ray c 2,299 Posted June 4, 2018 1 hour ago, DC2 said: You could have Jacobs and Perks instead of those two, but that’s not the Poole mentality! Until he bsps bring in you must use at least two Brits in the team it will never change yes I do know Poole don't use Brits .and less be honest if holder was available we would not have any Brits in Poole team ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skidder1 7,617 Posted June 4, 2018 Not sure why this topic is on the Premiership section? Surely its the Championship teams that should have a minimum of 3 young Brits in each team, plus a limit on the number of foreign riders?! 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MattK 3,447 Posted June 4, 2018 11 hours ago, speedy bill said: Why do we allow teams to run foreign riders at reserve instead of giving British riders the places,it worked in 2014 so why not now. Did it work on 2014? I remember riders who were wildly out of their depth being thrown into the Elite League in the name of development. The "draft" was the pivotal moment for me, when the top league no longer held the presitge or cachet it should. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GWC 495 Posted June 4, 2018 (edited) It must change next season that’s for sure unless the bspa have some form of death wish for UK speedway. Go back to the 70’s and allow one foreigner per team! Where would Poole be then! Edited June 4, 2018 by GWC Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ray c 2,299 Posted June 4, 2018 (edited) 14 minutes ago, GWC said: It must change next season that’s for sure unless the bspa have some form of death wish for UK speedway. Go back to the 70’s and allow one foreigner per team! Where would Poole be then! Where would any team be ? Edited June 4, 2018 by ray c 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites