ch958 2,393 Posted July 2, 2018 yeah it was a gag don't worry. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
orion 7,610 Posted July 2, 2018 15 hours ago, OldRacer said: There are many tracks that do run a sustainable business with lower crowds than 20 years ago. Some have dropped down a division, but each must cut the cloth according to their means. Your description of Poole is nothing like the Bulldogs story. A new promotion came in and moved the team into the top flight with a strong, expensive team. They told the fans that they needed a certain number through the gate to make it work. Effectively the fans were told to choose whether to support a top team or not. They voted with their feet and the promotion lost a packet. I would not recommend other promotions do the same. Why would be the same .it was not the point i was making .you gave a example of why we should not have strong teams become reading went bust .so I am giving you example back of when not having top riders has hurt another club .. it's not hard to follow .Losing fans that never come back is not sustainable for anyone but the plan is to carry doing that ..amazing . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
INCOGNITO 357 Posted July 5, 2018 On 1 July 2018 at 8:31 AM, Najjer said: The answer to this has been given and suggested by Steve Shovlar already. I'll use a few examples to try and emphasis the point. Why should Somerset if they afford the world champion, why should Kings Lynn if they can afford Iversen and Lambert, why should Poole if they are happy to spend money on the riders they wish to do so, why should Leicester not be able to sign Andersen, Bjerre or even Vaculik etc, and then all come down to a level to suit a much less better off financial or ambitious club... ASSUMING (that's a reasonably big assumption) the other clubs already named can make it work currently financially? Why not have a maximum points limit of 45.00 (rough guide) and it's down to teams to manage themselves to work within their means. If that meant Rye House as an example, couldn't then sign Kasprzak because of his air fares and couldn't offer the ridiculous money they offered to Harris and Nichols to ensure they signed for them, then so be it and it would free them up to sign for somebody who could afford them. It's down to clubs to manage themselves a lot better in my opinion. Pits fine that a few tracks can pay the bigger names but how many of these are doing it through the finances of the club. Some of these are met by outside business interests and it's not about the few it's about all tracks pulling together to rebuild at one big league. Only if you used Championship averages could you do a 45 limit as there wouldn't be the riders around to fill all teams as doubling up is another disease that has eaten away at British Speedway. Using only Premiership averages upto say 35 would mean Belle Vue, Wolves, Poole etc coming down to the level of Ipswich, Sheffield, Redcar etc. If Leicesterbwant to sign Andersen on say 7.89 then fine but that takes a big chunk out of the limit and on the plus side would mean they are more likely to have two NL reserves. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
INCOGNITO 357 Posted July 5, 2018 On 1 July 2018 at 6:15 AM, mikebv said: And if clubs are struggling now with a circa £18 attendance fee seemingly proving to be very dissuasive for so many, how much would they need to charge to cover a 'top riders' wages on top of their current expenditure.? If you want the likes of Woffinden, Hancock, Sayfutdinov etc to ride here you would have to increase admission of a track that gets one thousand regulars to about £23 to include just one so adding two would be £28 and roughly four to five pound on top for each top rider. Or about an extra 250 REGULAR new fans for each top rider you employ which won't happen as many don't go now as they feel £18 isn't value for money and very few riders would want to ride here in a league of 28 (now 24) meetings as a minimum. British Speedway has to go with what it can afford and rebuild using NL riders at reserve but also make the NL a learning league as it used to be and not fill it up with Championship riders like Perks, Shanes etc 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mikebv 10,240 Posted July 5, 2018 46 minutes ago, INCOGNITO said: If you want the likes of Woffinden, Hancock, Sayfutdinov etc to ride here you would have to increase admission of a track that gets one thousand regulars to about £23 to include just one so adding two would be £28 and roughly four to five pound on top for each top rider. Or about an extra 250 REGULAR new fans for each top rider you employ which won't happen as many don't go now as they feel £18 isn't value for money and very few riders would want to ride here in a league of 28 (now 24) meetings as a minimum. British Speedway has to go with what it can afford and rebuild using NL riders at reserve but also make the NL a learning league as it used to be and not fill it up with Championship riders like Perks, Shanes etc You know that.... Many others know that.... But will the Ego of some Promoters accept that? I am not too sure... Taking 'Selfies' and filling your Facebook pages with you alongside International Speedway riders is very important to some..... Looking at the general average crowd to matches I have attend this season in the Prem, I would suggest about (max) 1200 is ball park... After VAT that gets you around £17,000 at £18 entry.. Take off £3k (maybe more?), for the running costs and that would leave around £14k to pay your seven riders two meetings worth of money. (Or £7k a night).. You may make a few quid on Car Park, Programmes, Food and Drink and have some Sponsorship to boost the coffers.. Bottom line is £7k a night per team is simply too much to pay out and £18 is too high a price to pay in... Drop the admission to £15 and spend £5k a night and you may have a fighting chance... If you can find seven riders to ride for £5k then run seven man teams.. If you can only find six or five riders to ride for £5k then run six or five man teams... The standard just needs to be relatively equal.. It doesn't need to be World Class.. Just competitive.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bald Bloke 3,281 Posted July 5, 2018 (edited) Somethings got to happen , and happen soon, that's for sure. I was just looking back to the year I left school, to see how may teams we had back then. I was going to speedway then, buts it's a long time ago. I was shocked..... 1980 BRITISH LEAGUE Team Mts Won Drn Lst For Agn Pts 1.READING ‘Racers’ 32 24 1 7 1434 1062 49 2.Hackney ‘Hawks’ 32 23 0 9 1300 1188 46 3.Belle Vue ‘Aces’ 32 21 1 10 1298 1193 43 4.Coventry ‘Bees’ 32 20 2 10 1326 1170 42 5.Cradley Heath ‘Heathens’ 32 20 0 12 1302 1189 40 6.King’s Lynn ‘Stars’ 32 17 0 15 1353 1141 34 7.Ipswich ‘Witches’ 32 16 2 14 1298 1194 34 8.Swindon ‘Robins’ 32 16 2 14 1264 1231 34 9.Poole ‘Pirates’ 32 15 2 15 1254 1237 32 10.Halifax ‘Dukes’ 32 15 1 16 1219 1271 31 11.Leicester ‘Lions’ 32 14 0 18 1253 1241 28 12.Hull ‘Vikings’ 32 11 5 16 1207 1286 27 13.Wimbledon ‘Dons’ 32 12 2 18 1195 1294 26 14.Birmingham ‘Brummies’ 32 11 1 20 1158 1338 23 15.Wolverhampton ‘Wolves’ 32 9 2 21 1192 1297 20 16.Eastbourne ‘Eagles’ 32 9 1 22 1093 1399 19 17.Sheffield ‘Tigers’ 32 8 0 24 1039 1454 16 KNOCK-OUT CUP FINAL: Cradley Heath 116 Belle Vue 100 INTER LEAGUE KNOCK-OUT CUP FINAL: King’s Lynn 83 Swindon 73 BL RIDERS’ CHAMPIONSHIP: Les Collins (Leicester), 14 pts 1980 NATIONAL LEAGUE Team Mts Won Drn Lst For Agn Pts 1.RYE HOUSE ‘Rockets’ 38 31 0 7 1735 1219 62 2.Newcastle ‘Diamonds’ 38 30 1 7 1714 1238 61 3.Middlesbrough ‘Tigers’ 38 27 2 9 1665½ 1288½ 56 4.Berwick ‘Bandits’ 38 24 1 13 1638½ 1306½ 49 5.Boston ‘Barracudas’ 38 23 2 13 1605 1348 48 6.Edinburgh ‘Monarchs’ 38 23 2 13 1499 1457 48 7.Mildenhall ‘Fen Tigers’ 38 21 2 15 1543½ 1415½ 44 8.Peterborough ‘Panthers’ 38 21 0 17 1467 1494 42 9.Crayford ‘Kestrels’ 37 20 1 16 1542 1334 41 10.Ellesmere Port ‘Gunners’ 38 20 1 17 1561 1396 41 11.Glasgow ‘Tigers’ 38 19 2 17 1538 1416 40 12.Exeter ‘Falcons’ 38 17 1 20 1453 1505 35 13.Scunthorpe ‘Stags’ 38 15 1 22 1363 1572 31 14.Nottingham ‘Outlaws’ 38 14 2 22 1415 1545 30 15.Oxford ‘Cheetahs’ 38 14 1 23 1339 1608 29 16.Stoke ‘Potters’ 38 14 0 24 1334 1615 28 17.Weymouth ‘Wildcats’ 37 13 1 23 1372½ 1483½ 27 18.Canterbury ‘Crusaders’ 38 10 4 24 1397 1555 24 19.Milton Keynes ‘Knights’ 38 8 2 28 1290 1668 18 20.Workington ‘Comets’ 38 2 0 36 969 1977 4 NOTE: One match, Crayford v. Weymouth, was not raced. Edited July 5, 2018 by Bald Bloke Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
acef 795 Posted July 5, 2018 On 6/30/2018 at 11:28 PM, Grachan said: Even without GP riders, you could have a league of reasonable strength. You are proposing a points limit of 35. It seems that your idea of what speedway should be is just a few people gathered in the countryside watching their mates having a skid round. That is fine at grass roots level, but the top league needs to improve its standard. I very rarely go to speedway these days, because, even though I like the Swindon side as I am used to those riders, the opposition never looks appealing. I want to be enthused by speedway. It infuriates me to see people saying it should be driven down to such a low level. It needs to get fans back in. It needs to get people like me back in. Your missing the point entirely. The sport can't operate on the implicated costs your theory would assume. It's struggling as it is with a much lower calibre of rider. It would be financial suicide for pretty much every UK club Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
STEVEHOLS54 380 Posted July 5, 2018 16 minutes ago, Bald Bloke said: Somethings got to happen , and happen soon, that's for sure. I was just looking back to the year I left school, to see how may teams we had back then. I was going to speedway then, buts it's a long time ago. I was shocked..... 1980 BRITISH LEAGUE Team Mts Won Drn Lst For Agn Pts 1.READING ‘Racers’ 32 24 1 7 1434 1062 49 2.Hackney ‘Hawks’ 32 23 0 9 1300 1188 46 3.Belle Vue ‘Aces’ 32 21 1 10 1298 1193 43 4.Coventry ‘Bees’ 32 20 2 10 1326 1170 42 5.Cradley Heath ‘Heathens’ 32 20 0 12 1302 1189 40 6.King’s Lynn ‘Stars’ 32 17 0 15 1353 1141 34 7.Ipswich ‘Witches’ 32 16 2 14 1298 1194 34 8.Swindon ‘Robins’ 32 16 2 14 1264 1231 34 9.Poole ‘Pirates’ 32 15 2 15 1254 1237 32 10.Halifax ‘Dukes’ 32 15 1 16 1219 1271 31 11.Leicester ‘Lions’ 32 14 0 18 1253 1241 28 12.Hull ‘Vikings’ 32 11 5 16 1207 1286 27 13.Wimbledon ‘Dons’ 32 12 2 18 1195 1294 26 14.Birmingham ‘Brummies’ 32 11 1 20 1158 1338 23 15.Wolverhampton ‘Wolves’ 32 9 2 21 1192 1297 20 16.Eastbourne ‘Eagles’ 32 9 1 22 1093 1399 19 17.Sheffield ‘Tigers’ 32 8 0 24 1039 1454 16 KNOCK-OUT CUP FINAL: Cradley Heath 116 Belle Vue 100 INTER LEAGUE KNOCK-OUT CUP FINAL: King’s Lynn 83 Swindon 73 BL RIDERS’ CHAMPIONSHIP: Les Collins (Leicester), 14 pts 1980 NATIONAL LEAGUE Team Mts Won Drn Lst For Agn Pts 1.RYE HOUSE ‘Rockets’ 38 31 0 7 1735 1219 62 2.Newcastle ‘Diamonds’ 38 30 1 7 1714 1238 61 3.Middlesbrough ‘Tigers’ 38 27 2 9 1665½ 1288½ 56 4.Berwick ‘Bandits’ 38 24 1 13 1638½ 1306½ 49 5.Boston ‘Barracudas’ 38 23 2 13 1605 1348 48 6.Edinburgh ‘Monarchs’ 38 23 2 13 1499 1457 48 7.Mildenhall ‘Fen Tigers’ 38 21 2 15 1543½ 1415½ 44 8.Peterborough ‘Panthers’ 38 21 0 17 1467 1494 42 9.Crayford ‘Kestrels’ 37 20 1 16 1542 1334 41 10.Ellesmere Port ‘Gunners’ 38 20 1 17 1561 1396 41 11.Glasgow ‘Tigers’ 38 19 2 17 1538 1416 40 12.Exeter ‘Falcons’ 38 17 1 20 1453 1505 35 13.Scunthorpe ‘Stags’ 38 15 1 22 1363 1572 31 14.Nottingham ‘Outlaws’ 38 14 2 22 1415 1545 30 15.Oxford ‘Cheetahs’ 38 14 1 23 1339 1608 29 16.Stoke ‘Potters’ 38 14 0 24 1334 1615 28 17.Weymouth ‘Wildcats’ 37 13 1 23 1372½ 1483½ 27 18.Canterbury ‘Crusaders’ 38 10 4 24 1397 1555 24 19.Milton Keynes ‘Knights’ 38 8 2 28 1290 1668 18 20.Workington ‘Comets’ 38 2 0 36 969 1977 4 NOTE: One match, Crayford v. Weymouth, was not raced. Jeez - Don't remind me. It was a year where my 2 nearest and loved clubs almost pulled off a unique double. Hackney and Rye House. I got the best of both leagues on a Friday and Sunday. The nearest, my beloved Hawks ever came to winning the top division and I supported them as a 16 year old from 1970. But your point is yes so many clubs - so many matches with not only League but KO Cup and Individual rider championship's/meetings. Have to say was best time for me between 70 and say early eightees. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DC2 11,150 Posted July 5, 2018 44 minutes ago, STEVEHOLS54 said: Jeez - Don't remind me. It was a year where my 2 nearest and loved clubs almost pulled off a unique double. Hackney and Rye House. I got the best of both leagues on a Friday and Sunday. The nearest, my beloved Hawks ever came to winning the top division and I supported them as a 16 year old from 1970. But your point is yes so many clubs - so many matches with not only League but KO Cup and Individual rider championship's/meetings. Have to say was best time for me between 70 and say early eightees. Blimey, Steve, I’m framing that. Your shortest post ever. Even shorter than your wedding vows when all you were supposed to say was “I do”! Apparently you were still answering on your first anniversary. Lol. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
STEVEHOLS54 380 Posted July 5, 2018 2 hours ago, DC2 said: Blimey, Steve, I’m framing that. Your shortest post ever. Even shorter than your wedding vows when all you were supposed to say was “I do”! Apparently you were still answering on your first anniversary. Lol. LOL Sorry DC I do tend to get really into this forum thing since i first discovered it 2 years ago. But don't knock it mate. You can hopefully tell I love the sport and am really into some of the stats side as well as being an enthusiastic supporter who likes having open debate with others interested. Not all this bloody back biting that goes on. But I enjoy some of the witty posts. One liners anyone can do incl me but I like the debate element. Remember I am a speedway supporter of many years and one of a dying breed as there is less young talent/supporters joining us. Hopefully the sport will still outlive me but you have to cast some doubts when you see whats going on. Was lucky enough to be able to take early retirement 2 years ago after 46 years in the Shipping biz. (My decision to retire early). Suppose I still partly miss the buzz and hustle/bustle of working life which maybe why i throw myself more into the Forum (specially Poole) even though based in Chelmsford- Essex. Anyway better go as rambling again Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
STEVEHOLS54 380 Posted July 5, 2018 2 minutes ago, STEVEHOLS54 said: LOL Sorry DC I do tend to get really into this forum thing since i first discovered it 2 years ago. But don't knock it mate. You can hopefully tell I love the sport and am really into some of the stats side as well as being an enthusiastic supporter who likes having open debate with others interested. Not all this bloody back biting that goes on. But I enjoy some of the witty posts. One liners anyone can do incl me but I like the debate element. Remember I am a speedway supporter of many years and one of a dying breed as there is less young talent/supporters joining us. Hopefully the sport will still outlive me but you have to cast some doubts when you see whats going on. Was lucky enough to be able to take early retirement 2 years ago after 46 years in the Shipping biz. (My decision to retire early). Suppose I still partly miss the buzz and hustle/bustle of working life which maybe why i throw myself more into the Forum (specially Poole) even though based in Chelmsford- Essex. Anyway better go as rambling again P.S: Interesting choice of words re wedding vows as celebrated our 43rd wedding anniversary today. Jeez that is a lifetime huh ?? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GWC 495 Posted July 5, 2018 4 hours ago, Bald Bloke said: Somethings got to happen , and happen soon, that's for sure. I was just looking back to the year I left school, to see how may teams we had back then. I was going to speedway then, buts it's a long time ago. I was shocked..... 1980 BRITISH LEAGUE Team Mts Won Drn Lst For Agn Pts 1.READING ‘Racers’ 32 24 1 7 1434 1062 49 2.Hackney ‘Hawks’ 32 23 0 9 1300 1188 46 3.Belle Vue ‘Aces’ 32 21 1 10 1298 1193 43 4.Coventry ‘Bees’ 32 20 2 10 1326 1170 42 5.Cradley Heath ‘Heathens’ 32 20 0 12 1302 1189 40 6.King’s Lynn ‘Stars’ 32 17 0 15 1353 1141 34 7.Ipswich ‘Witches’ 32 16 2 14 1298 1194 34 8.Swindon ‘Robins’ 32 16 2 14 1264 1231 34 9.Poole ‘Pirates’ 32 15 2 15 1254 1237 32 10.Halifax ‘Dukes’ 32 15 1 16 1219 1271 31 11.Leicester ‘Lions’ 32 14 0 18 1253 1241 28 12.Hull ‘Vikings’ 32 11 5 16 1207 1286 27 13.Wimbledon ‘Dons’ 32 12 2 18 1195 1294 26 14.Birmingham ‘Brummies’ 32 11 1 20 1158 1338 23 15.Wolverhampton ‘Wolves’ 32 9 2 21 1192 1297 20 16.Eastbourne ‘Eagles’ 32 9 1 22 1093 1399 19 17.Sheffield ‘Tigers’ 32 8 0 24 1039 1454 16 KNOCK-OUT CUP FINAL: Cradley Heath 116 Belle Vue 100 INTER LEAGUE KNOCK-OUT CUP FINAL: King’s Lynn 83 Swindon 73 BL RIDERS’ CHAMPIONSHIP: Les Collins (Leicester), 14 pts 1980 NATIONAL LEAGUE Team Mts Won Drn Lst For Agn Pts 1.RYE HOUSE ‘Rockets’ 38 31 0 7 1735 1219 62 2.Newcastle ‘Diamonds’ 38 30 1 7 1714 1238 61 3.Middlesbrough ‘Tigers’ 38 27 2 9 1665½ 1288½ 56 4.Berwick ‘Bandits’ 38 24 1 13 1638½ 1306½ 49 5.Boston ‘Barracudas’ 38 23 2 13 1605 1348 48 6.Edinburgh ‘Monarchs’ 38 23 2 13 1499 1457 48 7.Mildenhall ‘Fen Tigers’ 38 21 2 15 1543½ 1415½ 44 8.Peterborough ‘Panthers’ 38 21 0 17 1467 1494 42 9.Crayford ‘Kestrels’ 37 20 1 16 1542 1334 41 10.Ellesmere Port ‘Gunners’ 38 20 1 17 1561 1396 41 11.Glasgow ‘Tigers’ 38 19 2 17 1538 1416 40 12.Exeter ‘Falcons’ 38 17 1 20 1453 1505 35 13.Scunthorpe ‘Stags’ 38 15 1 22 1363 1572 31 14.Nottingham ‘Outlaws’ 38 14 2 22 1415 1545 30 15.Oxford ‘Cheetahs’ 38 14 1 23 1339 1608 29 16.Stoke ‘Potters’ 38 14 0 24 1334 1615 28 17.Weymouth ‘Wildcats’ 37 13 1 23 1372½ 1483½ 27 18.Canterbury ‘Crusaders’ 38 10 4 24 1397 1555 24 19.Milton Keynes ‘Knights’ 38 8 2 28 1290 1668 18 20.Workington ‘Comets’ 38 2 0 36 969 1977 4 NOTE: One match, Crayford v. Weymouth, was not raced. Yes and the majority of riders in the BL had come through from the NL and become stars. Unfotunutely at this time teams like Cradley threw huge somes of money at their team and got team strengths increased and started the demise. As someone mentioned it didn’t see crowds increase and cost clubs a fortune. Rye House for example lost half their championship winning team when most of their riders moved up. It was a given in those days that riders from the NL would progress but I’m pretty sure the majority still had full time jobs as well as ride speedway. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DC2 11,150 Posted July 5, 2018 3 hours ago, STEVEHOLS54 said: LOL Sorry DC I do tend to get really into this forum thing since i first discovered it 2 years ago. But don't knock it mate. You can hopefully tell I love the sport and am really into some of the stats side as well as being an enthusiastic supporter who likes having open debate with others interested. Not all this bloody back biting that goes on. But I enjoy some of the witty posts. One liners anyone can do incl me but I like the debate element. Remember I am a speedway supporter of many years and one of a dying breed as there is less young talent/supporters joining us. Hopefully the sport will still outlive me but you have to cast some doubts when you see whats going on. Was lucky enough to be able to take early retirement 2 years ago after 46 years in the Shipping biz. (My decision to retire early). Suppose I still partly miss the buzz and hustle/bustle of working life which maybe why i throw myself more into the Forum (specially Poole) even though based in Chelmsford- Essex. Anyway better go as rambling again See, you’re such a decent bloke that I’ll pass on this application to Rosco so you can come over from the dark side. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Trackrat 440 Posted July 5, 2018 6 hours ago, Bald Bloke said: Somethings got to happen , and happen soon, that's for sure. I was just looking back to the year I left school, to see how may teams we had back then. I was going to speedway then, buts it's a long time ago. I was shocked..... 1980 BRITISH LEAGUE Team Mts Won Drn Lst For Agn Pts 1.READING ‘Racers’ 32 24 1 7 1434 1062 49 2.Hackney ‘Hawks’ 32 23 0 9 1300 1188 46 3.Belle Vue ‘Aces’ 32 21 1 10 1298 1193 43 4.Coventry ‘Bees’ 32 20 2 10 1326 1170 42 5.Cradley Heath ‘Heathens’ 32 20 0 12 1302 1189 40 6.King’s Lynn ‘Stars’ 32 17 0 15 1353 1141 34 7.Ipswich ‘Witches’ 32 16 2 14 1298 1194 34 8.Swindon ‘Robins’ 32 16 2 14 1264 1231 34 9.Poole ‘Pirates’ 32 15 2 15 1254 1237 32 10.Halifax ‘Dukes’ 32 15 1 16 1219 1271 31 11.Leicester ‘Lions’ 32 14 0 18 1253 1241 28 12.Hull ‘Vikings’ 32 11 5 16 1207 1286 27 13.Wimbledon ‘Dons’ 32 12 2 18 1195 1294 26 14.Birmingham ‘Brummies’ 32 11 1 20 1158 1338 23 15.Wolverhampton ‘Wolves’ 32 9 2 21 1192 1297 20 16.Eastbourne ‘Eagles’ 32 9 1 22 1093 1399 19 17.Sheffield ‘Tigers’ 32 8 0 24 1039 1454 16 KNOCK-OUT CUP FINAL: Cradley Heath 116 Belle Vue 100 INTER LEAGUE KNOCK-OUT CUP FINAL: King’s Lynn 83 Swindon 73 BL RIDERS’ CHAMPIONSHIP: Les Collins (Leicester), 14 pts 1980 NATIONAL LEAGUE Team Mts Won Drn Lst For Agn Pts 1.RYE HOUSE ‘Rockets’ 38 31 0 7 1735 1219 62 2.Newcastle ‘Diamonds’ 38 30 1 7 1714 1238 61 3.Middlesbrough ‘Tigers’ 38 27 2 9 1665½ 1288½ 56 4.Berwick ‘Bandits’ 38 24 1 13 1638½ 1306½ 49 5.Boston ‘Barracudas’ 38 23 2 13 1605 1348 48 6.Edinburgh ‘Monarchs’ 38 23 2 13 1499 1457 48 7.Mildenhall ‘Fen Tigers’ 38 21 2 15 1543½ 1415½ 44 8.Peterborough ‘Panthers’ 38 21 0 17 1467 1494 42 9.Crayford ‘Kestrels’ 37 20 1 16 1542 1334 41 10.Ellesmere Port ‘Gunners’ 38 20 1 17 1561 1396 41 11.Glasgow ‘Tigers’ 38 19 2 17 1538 1416 40 12.Exeter ‘Falcons’ 38 17 1 20 1453 1505 35 13.Scunthorpe ‘Stags’ 38 15 1 22 1363 1572 31 14.Nottingham ‘Outlaws’ 38 14 2 22 1415 1545 30 15.Oxford ‘Cheetahs’ 38 14 1 23 1339 1608 29 16.Stoke ‘Potters’ 38 14 0 24 1334 1615 28 17.Weymouth ‘Wildcats’ 37 13 1 23 1372½ 1483½ 27 18.Canterbury ‘Crusaders’ 38 10 4 24 1397 1555 24 19.Milton Keynes ‘Knights’ 38 8 2 28 1290 1668 18 20.Workington ‘Comets’ 38 2 0 36 969 1977 4 NOTE: One match, Crayford v. Weymouth, was not raced. I thought Poole won everything?????? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Starman2006 2,354 Posted July 5, 2018 6 hours ago, Bald Bloke said: Somethings got to happen , and happen soon, that's for sure. I was just looking back to the year I left school, to see how may teams we had back then. I was going to speedway then, buts it's a long time ago. I was shocked..... 1980 BRITISH LEAGUE Team Mts Won Drn Lst For Agn Pts 1.READING ‘Racers’ 32 24 1 7 1434 1062 49 2.Hackney ‘Hawks’ 32 23 0 9 1300 1188 46 3.Belle Vue ‘Aces’ 32 21 1 10 1298 1193 43 4.Coventry ‘Bees’ 32 20 2 10 1326 1170 42 5.Cradley Heath ‘Heathens’ 32 20 0 12 1302 1189 40 6.King’s Lynn ‘Stars’ 32 17 0 15 1353 1141 34 7.Ipswich ‘Witches’ 32 16 2 14 1298 1194 34 8.Swindon ‘Robins’ 32 16 2 14 1264 1231 34 9.Poole ‘Pirates’ 32 15 2 15 1254 1237 32 10.Halifax ‘Dukes’ 32 15 1 16 1219 1271 31 11.Leicester ‘Lions’ 32 14 0 18 1253 1241 28 12.Hull ‘Vikings’ 32 11 5 16 1207 1286 27 13.Wimbledon ‘Dons’ 32 12 2 18 1195 1294 26 14.Birmingham ‘Brummies’ 32 11 1 20 1158 1338 23 15.Wolverhampton ‘Wolves’ 32 9 2 21 1192 1297 20 16.Eastbourne ‘Eagles’ 32 9 1 22 1093 1399 19 17.Sheffield ‘Tigers’ 32 8 0 24 1039 1454 16 KNOCK-OUT CUP FINAL: Cradley Heath 116 Belle Vue 100 INTER LEAGUE KNOCK-OUT CUP FINAL: King’s Lynn 83 Swindon 73 BL RIDERS’ CHAMPIONSHIP: Les Collins (Leicester), 14 pts 1980 NATIONAL LEAGUE Team Mts Won Drn Lst For Agn Pts 1.RYE HOUSE ‘Rockets’ 38 31 0 7 1735 1219 62 2.Newcastle ‘Diamonds’ 38 30 1 7 1714 1238 61 3.Middlesbrough ‘Tigers’ 38 27 2 9 1665½ 1288½ 56 4.Berwick ‘Bandits’ 38 24 1 13 1638½ 1306½ 49 5.Boston ‘Barracudas’ 38 23 2 13 1605 1348 48 6.Edinburgh ‘Monarchs’ 38 23 2 13 1499 1457 48 7.Mildenhall ‘Fen Tigers’ 38 21 2 15 1543½ 1415½ 44 8.Peterborough ‘Panthers’ 38 21 0 17 1467 1494 42 9.Crayford ‘Kestrels’ 37 20 1 16 1542 1334 41 10.Ellesmere Port ‘Gunners’ 38 20 1 17 1561 1396 41 11.Glasgow ‘Tigers’ 38 19 2 17 1538 1416 40 12.Exeter ‘Falcons’ 38 17 1 20 1453 1505 35 13.Scunthorpe ‘Stags’ 38 15 1 22 1363 1572 31 14.Nottingham ‘Outlaws’ 38 14 2 22 1415 1545 30 15.Oxford ‘Cheetahs’ 38 14 1 23 1339 1608 29 16.Stoke ‘Potters’ 38 14 0 24 1334 1615 28 17.Weymouth ‘Wildcats’ 37 13 1 23 1372½ 1483½ 27 18.Canterbury ‘Crusaders’ 38 10 4 24 1397 1555 24 19.Milton Keynes ‘Knights’ 38 8 2 28 1290 1668 18 20.Workington ‘Comets’ 38 2 0 36 969 1977 4 NOTE: One match, Crayford v. Weymouth, was not raced. Yup, and many of those have now gone.. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
