Next season. Cancel BT deal and take broadcasting inhouse.

[BluTiger 21,661]

8 minutes ago, PHILIPRISING said:

TERRY has nothing to do with any more. 

Does any one have an idea about the production costs?

 

 

[Steve Shovlar 10,439]

Much, much cheaper than you would think. There’s a lot of companies manufacturing completely affordable equipment. Several thousand would have a very pro setup. The studio mixer is a laptop. A quality internet connection is the main requirement but nearly everywhere has fibre broadband nowdays. Certainly good enough for this. Any of the video boys could have a setup running in no time.

All revenue to speedway for minimal outlay plus wages for the guys.

[Steve Shovlar 10,439]

16 minutes ago, BluPanther said:

 

Not even half of one of those stacks. We are not talking broadcast setup.  No cafe bus. No producer, scaffolder, satellite links etc. really is cheap to do. Sabmar in Poland do exactly this. If you have seen their internet broadcasts you will see what can be done on a budget and its free from them. The advertising pays for everything.

[RobMcCaffery 2,752]

Many years back I appeared before the National League/Division 2 BSPA Management Committee to propose a scheme to indeed take broadcasting 'in-house' and produce programmes for sale to the network. The response was "But we don't know how to do it". I'd rather hoped they'd got the point that they'd need to hire someone who did.....

I doubt very much whether the attitude has changed.

It would be interesting to know how Sweden is coping with the lack of a TV deal this year. They have a deal to sell matches to Poland and Britain with the Swedish (and international) markets covered by pay per view. 

One small point that is ignored by most BSF people, probably because of its subtlety, is how promotion of speedway on BT Sport treats it as a major sport, slotting in promos alongside their European football and Premier League matches and their Rugby, either sharing ad breaks or being promoted in the ad breaks of those matches.

For example, during the Champions League Final, watched by about 3 million people, a record for pay-TV, there was at least one promo for the Rye House v King's Lynn match the following Monday.

Just as you can have guilt by association so you can have credit by association. Anyone watching BT Sport's premium events would have no doubt that they covered speedway and see promos that made it look like one of their top sports.Of course you could pay for such publicity - if you could afford it.

The last time I tried to explain this one BSF charmer responded "Well it was a crap meeting" which does rather sum up the BSF and perhaps speedway as a whole. Unless something gives direct cash in the hand its benefits are too hard to understand. 

Edited July 2, 2018 by RobMcCaffery

[RobMcCaffery 2,752]

17 minutes ago, Steve Shovlar said:

Not even half of one of those stacks. We are not talking broadcast setup.  No cafe bus. No producer, scaffolder, satellite links etc. really is cheap to do. Sabmar in Poland do exactly this. If you have seen their internet broadcasts you will see what can be done on a budget and its free from them. The advertising pays for everything.

I watch Sabmar's coverage frequently. It's just about acceptable if you don't mind the very limited quality, constantly inaccurate captions and general feeling that it's made by amateurs. 

Still, it's only speedway, doesn't deserve having it done properly eh? Let's just do it on the cheap and hope the punters are desperate or easily pleased, eh? Lovely jubbly!

[A ORLOV 8,628]

With the way the bspa runs speedway does anyone think they have a clue about broadcasting it inhouse.

[Steve Shovlar 10,439]

2 minutes ago, RobMcCaffery said:

I watch Sabmar's coverage frequently. It's just about acceptable if you don't mind the very limited quality, constantly inaccurate captions and general feeling that it's made by amateurs. 

Still, it's only speedway, doesn't deserve having it done properly eh? Let's just do it on the cheap and hope the punters are desperate or easily pleased, eh? Lovely jubbly!

Having incorrect captions is down to their crew, not the equipment. 

No, the standard will not be “broadcast quality”. Having broadcast quality would be overkill for an online stream. Subscribers would expect, “good enough” but wouldn’t expect broadcast quality with fancy graphics and Pearson and Tatum. They could have a good dvd commentator like the guy from Belle Vue.  Plus a guy doing interviews from a fixed position in the pits. Four cameras would do a decent job.

BT bring nothing to the sport. They pay nothing and take away fans from the stadium. No benefits. Unless they are prepared to pay a good price the contract should be terminated imo.

[iris123 20,935]

You do have to wonder.....3million watch the Champions League final with at least one promo for Rye,and what happens some weeks later?Rye seem to have big problems!!!!That worked well,disn’t it?

[wealdstone 3,454]

2 hours ago, GiveusaB said:

Before the perfect TV package/promotion, is put in place, we need to rid the sport of the dinosaurs at the helm of the BSPA........imo !

Many Dinosaurs will regard your post as grossly offensive as they regard themselves as a lot more forward thinking than BSPA

[PHILIPRISING 7,298]

1 hour ago, Steve Shovlar said:

Much, much cheaper than you would think. There’s a lot of companies manufacturing completely affordable equipment. Several thousand would have a very pro setup. The studio mixer is a laptop. A quality internet connection is the main requirement but nearly everywhere has fibre broadband nowdays. Certainly good enough for this. Any of the video boys could have a setup running in no time.

All revenue to speedway for minimal outlay plus wages for the guys.

HOW many speedway stadiums have fibre broadband. Just asking the question ... time for flagrag to make a contribution. 

[PHILIPRISING 7,298]

46 minutes ago, Steve Shovlar said:

Having incorrect captions is down to their crew, not the equipment. 

No, the standard will not be “broadcast quality”. Having broadcast quality would be overkill for an online stream. Subscribers would expect, “good enough” but wouldn’t expect broadcast quality with fancy graphics and Pearson and Tatum. They could have a good dvd commentator like the guy from Belle Vue.  Plus a guy doing interviews from a fixed position in the pits. Four cameras would do a decent job.

BT bring nothing to the sport. They pay nothing and take away fans from the stadium. No benefits. Unless they are prepared to pay a good price the contract should be terminated imo.

THEY pay for the production

[mickthemuppet 976]

8 minutes ago, PHILIPRISING said:

THEY pay for the production

Just had a letter from BT saying the rental charge will be going up next month so that will be me out 

[Steve Shovlar 10,439]

30 minutes ago, PHILIPRISING said:

THEY pay for the production

But so what? BT are the ones to benefit, not speedway. They have a unique product, and they can sell advertising. By all accounts viewing figures are favourable. So a win for them.

What does speedway get out of it? Lower gates at the televised meeting. Time for speedway to take control of their product and make some money through streaming. Other sports do it alreading including ice hockey. If it works for them there’s no reason why it can’t bring money into uk clubs.

[Starman2006 2,354]

4 minutes ago, Steve Shovlar said:

But so what? BT are the ones to benefit, not speedway. They have a unique product, and they can sell advertising. By all accounts viewing figures are favourable. So a win for them.

What does speedway get out of it? Lower gates at the televised meeting. Time for speedway to take control of their product and make some money through streaming. Other sports do it alreading including ice hockey. If it works for them there’s no reason why it can’t bring money into uk clubs.

But same applied when Sky were doing it Steve. Gates would drop then, appart from the very early days. But the sky money covered any drop in gates, in effect the BT momey should do, but it down to respective clubs to dangle the carrot, get more through the gates and with the BT money more than cover any potential loses.

Edited July 2, 2018 by Starman2006

[uk_martin 1,606]

5 hours ago, Steve Shovlar said:

I bet Pete Ballinger or Speedway Portal would be keen as mustard to get the chance.

I bet they'd be counting the minutes on one hand before someone would tell the world how their super new streaming service could be viewed for free on Kodi.