BWitcher 12,453 Posted July 12, 2018 Just now, stevebrum said: No one was laughing when he was scoring a maximum. The problem that’s been exposed is when we struggle in a meeting or lose a meeting we should have won will point us to a number one who isn’t scoring what Freddie would have done. as is always the case one rider doesn’t make a team. There are bigger issues than Jacob dropping his average a bit. Stop bringing Lindgren into it. It's not relevant. What you need is riders to maintain their average as a minimum.. and improve them to be successful. When we sign a rider almost guaranteed to lower his average pressure is then put on other members of the team who have to increase theirs by more to compensate. Thorssell, Heeps and Howarth have been the positions letting us down. As stated, Thorssell himself hasn't been letting us down, the management let us down by putting him in that position. Howarth has been blighted by injuries which effected his performances... and Heeps I'm afraid has been woeful. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevebrum 6,821 Posted July 12, 2018 1 hour ago, BWitcher said: Stop bringing Lindgren into it. It's not relevant. What you need is riders to maintain their average as a minimum.. and improve them to be successful. When we sign a rider almost guaranteed to lower his average pressure is then put on other members of the team who have to increase theirs by more to compensate. Thorssell, Heeps and Howarth have been the positions letting us down. As stated, Thorssell himself hasn't been letting us down, the management let us down by putting him in that position. Howarth has been blighted by injuries which effected his performances... and Heeps I'm afraid has been woeful. Of course it’s relevant, you keep mentioning that we shouldn’t have signed Thorssell instead of Lindgren. Howarth being injury jinxed and Heeps have been the biggest disappointments this season. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BWitcher 12,453 Posted July 12, 2018 10 minutes ago, stevebrum said: Of course it’s relevant, you keep mentioning that we shouldn’t have signed Thorssell instead of Lindgren. Howarth being injury jinxed and Heeps have been the biggest disappointments this season. We shouldn't have signed Thorssell. Period. Lindgren was simply an option, if we couldn't afford him we should have gone elsewhere. You are right in your second sentence, but that's what happens when you mess up your team building, it only takes something else to go wrong and problems escalate quickly. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
847084 99 Posted July 12, 2018 Woffinden’s low average in 2009 played a large contributory factor in winning the play off as did his appearance in place of Kylmakorpi two years ago. Looking at the starting seven in 2018 it was / is difficult to see where the improvement was likely to occur. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevebrum 6,821 Posted July 12, 2018 4 hours ago, 847084 said: Woffinden’s low average in 2009 played a large contributory factor in winning the play off as did his appearance in place of Kylmakorpi two years ago. Looking at the starting seven in 2018 it was / is difficult to see where the improvement was likely to occur. Agreed, although the increase in Masters and Schlein has helped us to a good start to the season. Morris has proved to be a good signing in reserve. Not in the main team tho. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BWitcher 12,453 Posted July 12, 2018 2 minutes ago, stevebrum said: Agreed, although the increase in Masters and Schlein has helped us to a good start to the season. Morris has proved to be a good signing in reserve. Not in the main team tho. Masters wasn't having a good year till he moved to No 4. Schlein was flying at No 4, less so since he moved to a heat leader spot. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Call me wolfie 677 Posted July 13, 2018 (edited) 14 hours ago, stevebrum said: Agreed, although the increase in Masters and Schlein has helped us to a good start to the season. Morris has proved to be a good signing in reserve. Not in the main team tho. Which wouldn't be an issue if Heeps had performed. We effectively have 3 reserves and without Howarth we are screwed, hopefully he will be back on monday Edited July 13, 2018 by Call me wolfie 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites