TonyE 822 Posted September 2, 2018 Logic says extend the cut off date. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Baldyman 6,243 Posted September 2, 2018 Hoping worky make it...even if my own team don't....would be shocking injustice if they don't take their place in the play offs. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv 10,685 Posted September 2, 2018 2 hours ago, TonyE said: Logic says extend the cut off date. It has been already hasnt it ? - from 9th to 16th Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jenga 2,998 Posted September 2, 2018 3 hours ago, Tapeworm said: As at Sunday 2nd September, also showing remaining fixtures and dates where known:- 1 Workington +12 - Red(H) 8th, New(H) 8th, Pet(A) 14th, New(A) 16th, Lak(H) TBA 2= Peterborough +11 - Lak(A) 8th, Ber(H) 9th, Wor(A) 14th. 2= Lakeside +11 - Edin(A) 7th, Pet(H) 8th, Gla(H) 14th, New(H) 15th, Wor(A) TBA 4 Edi +8 - Lak(H) 7th, Gla(A) 11th, Ber(H) 14th. 5= Ipswich +6 - Gla(A) 4th, Ber(H) 6th, Gla(H) 13th. 5= Glasgow +6 - Ips(H) 4th, Edi(H) 11th, Ips(A) 13th, Lak(A) 14th. 7= Berwick 0 - Ips(A) 6th, Pet(A) 9th, Edi(A) 14th. 7= Newcastle 0 - Wor(A) 8th, Scu(H) 9th, Lak(A) 15th, Wor(H) 16th. 9 Scunthorpe -6 - New(A) 9th. 10 Redcar -7 - She(H) 7th, Wor(A) 8th. 11 Sheffield -14 - Red(A) 7th. E&OE Cut off for play-offs is at midnight on 16th. A few teams will be praying for no rain offs of home fixtures, especially Workington on 8th and Lakeside on 14th/15th, as unconcluded home fixtures will count as -3 each on this table, and there are few options for re-staging. Could be quite a rumpus coming from Cumbria after their enforced mid-season fixtures alterations! Squeaky derriere time! err , Workington fixture v Peterborough is not an away fixture , its @ workington . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tapeworm 168 Posted September 2, 2018 1 hour ago, jenga said: err , Workington fixture v Peterborough is not an away fixture , its @ workington . Quite right. It was too much to hope I'd make no typos. Now corrected. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
scotchopper 312 Posted September 3, 2018 http://www.lakesidehammers.co/fixture-confirmation/ Not sure if I am reading this correct but I think this article means that the Lakeside vs Peterborough match won't be held before the cut off date. I also cannot see how Workington vs Lakeside will be held before the cut off date. This means Lakeside will only manage 3 more meetings, away to Edinburgh and then home to Glasgow and Newcastle. If they fail to get any points at Edinburgh on Friday that would mean they are vulnerable when they should be stick on for the play offs. Weather permitting they look like the only 2 meetings featuring the top 7 that won't fit in before the cut off assuming it is 16th September? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cyclone 943 Posted September 4, 2018 5 hours ago, scotchopper said: http://www.lakesidehammers.co/fixture-confirmation/ Not sure if I am reading this correct but I think this article means that the Lakeside vs Peterborough match won't be held before the cut off date. I also cannot see how Workington vs Lakeside will be held before the cut off date. This means Lakeside will only manage 3 more meetings, away to Edinburgh and then home to Glasgow and Newcastle. If they fail to get any points at Edinburgh on Friday that would mean they are vulnerable when they should be stick on for the play offs. Weather permitting they look like the only 2 meetings featuring the top 7 that won't fit in before the cut off assuming it is 16th Septem Dodgy weather forecast for Armadale on Friday atm - wonder if they will try to lay the track covers beforehand, as they did last Season, I think against Ippo? As the Hammers will not now have a fixture on the Saturday, perhaps this date should also be pencilled in as a contingency date at Armadale, should Friday fall foul of the rain? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fromafar 10,226 Posted September 4, 2018 14 hours ago, scotchopper said: http://www.lakesidehammers.co/fixture-confirmation/ Not sure if I am reading this correct but I think this article means that the Lakeside vs Peterborough match won't be held before the cut off date. I also cannot see how Workington vs Lakeside will be held before the cut off date. This means Lakeside will only manage 3 more meetings, away to Edinburgh and then home to Glasgow and Newcastle. If they fail to get any points at Edinburgh on Friday that would mean they are vulnerable when they should be stick on for the play offs. Weather permitting they look like the only 2 meetings featuring the top 7 that won't fit in before the cut off assuming it is 16th September? This Lakeside situation is just a shambles,they would be as closing the doors after the cut -off date if they don't make it through.They will still be racing in Dec the way things have gone. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mauger65 202 Posted September 4, 2018 Just the typical farcical end to the cut off as happens every year............... Quite incredible ............. the warmest driest summer in history ............. and everyone only had to arrange 10 home meetings to arrange ........... frankly there are no excuses for anyone not completing by the 16th And actually I think it would be the best thing for the sport if a team doesn't get into the playoffs due to its inability to complete them in time...... The cut off date should be clearly stated at the beginning of the season and stuck too only exception if its a wet summer and there are many rain offs ...... geez the league cup semi's haven't been done ......... and the 1st round of the knock out cup still not completed why promoters want to race in freezing October with lights on ..... as opposed to the summer in the daylight is beyond me ...... well done Berwick for completing their league during August 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gazc 6,976 Posted September 4, 2018 29 minutes ago, mauger65 said: Just the typical farcical end to the cut off as happens every year............... Quite incredible ............. the warmest driest summer in history ............. and everyone only had to arrange 10 home meetings to arrange ........... frankly there are no excuses for anyone not completing by the 16th And actually I think it would be the best thing for the sport if a team doesn't get into the playoffs due to its inability to complete them in time...... The cut off date should be clearly stated at the beginning of the season and stuck too only exception if its a wet summer and there are many rain offs ...... geez the league cup semi's haven't been done ......... and the 1st round of the knock out cup still not completed why promoters want to race in freezing October with lights on ..... as opposed to the summer in the daylight is beyond me ...... well done Berwick for completing their league during August Spot on from start to finish , farcical is the only way to describe it. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Taylorj 1,000 Posted September 4, 2018 30 minutes ago, mauger65 said: Just the typical farcical end to the cut off as happens every year............... Quite incredible ............. the warmest driest summer in history ............. and everyone only had to arrange 10 home meetings to arrange ........... frankly there are no excuses for anyone not completing by the 16th And actually I think it would be the best thing for the sport if a team doesn't get into the playoffs due to its inability to complete them in time...... The cut off date should be clearly stated at the beginning of the season and stuck too only exception if its a wet summer and there are many rain offs ...... geez the league cup semi's haven't been done ......... and the 1st round of the knock out cup still not completed why promoters want to race in freezing October with lights on ..... as opposed to the summer in the daylight is beyond me ...... well done Berwick for completing their league during August What is the big rush !! Some teams season finished in August..I can remember going to meetings in October, play-offs always to be end of Sept cut-off...That wonderful board of people BSPA i think they call it pull the plug on 3 teams Friday's fixtures which were agreed so all had to be re-arranged. Have you ever thought Rider availability comes into it, doubling up ,polish commitments, total ball ache for some teams I know that 3 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fromafar 10,226 Posted September 4, 2018 It really shows up what doubling -up and Guests have done to the sport as they both increase every year it seems. Teams can't use an alternative race night nowadays because these factors on many occasions . 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mauger65 202 Posted September 5, 2018 The diamonds in 2011 (I think) won 3 cups in October with the KOC being won on October 31st - and if it had rained that night .. there would have been no winner ..... in fact the diamonds were lucky they could ride 5 rides at home in october However, speedway does itself no favour by bending the rules ............. no other professional sport extends a deadline to its league Riders are meant to be available to ride in this league.... if they cant .. they shouldn't agree to ride in the league or the teams employing them should suffer and Workington I have the least sympathy for .... by the end of June they had raced 2 home meetings ????? It will happen one season ...........the playoffs (or the KOC) will be washed out in a rainy October ............ the cut -off date should have stayed at 9th Sept ..... no team had an excuse for not completing the 10 home meetings Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Taylorj 1,000 Posted September 5, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, mauger65 said: The diamonds in 2011 (I think) won 3 cups in October with the KOC being won on October 31st - and if it had rained that night .. there would have been no winner ..... in fact the diamonds were lucky they could ride 5 rides at home in october However, speedway does itself no favour by bending the rules ............. no other professional sport extends a deadline to its league Riders are meant to be available to ride in this league.... if they cant .. they shouldn't agree to ride in the league or the teams employing them should suffer and Workington I have the least sympathy for .... by the end of June they had raced 2 home meetings ????? It will happen one season ...........the playoffs (or the KOC) will be washed out in a rainy October ............ the cut -off date should have stayed at 9th Sept ..... no team had an excuse for not completing the 10 home meetings Hilarious..... you haven't got a bloody clue !! Edited September 5, 2018 by Taylorj 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
scaramanga 869 Posted September 5, 2018 On 9/4/2018 at 1:20 AM, cyclone said: Dodgy weather forecast for Armadale on Friday atm - wonder if they will try to lay the track covers beforehand, as they did last Season, I think against Ippo? As the Hammers will not now have a fixture on the Saturday, perhaps this date should also be pencilled in as a contingency date at Armadale, should Friday fall foul of the rain? if im not wrong Armadale is a Friday only track just like Berwick is Saturdays only with only 3 Wednesdays allowed for off nights unless of coarse sky want to pay a visit then they can manage a Monday night like has happened in the past Share this post Link to post Share on other sites