King's Lynn v Wolves 22/08/18 DOUBLE HEADER

[semion 2,192]

13 minutes ago, therefused said:

I never said £18 for 15 heats is ok did i?

and did I not state it as a question ?  Hence why at the end there was a question mark.  Now you have answered and confirmed that £18 for 15 heats is not VFM (IYHO).  So How much would you be willing to pay per meeting ?   Please don't say £12.50

[castrolargh 262]

watching the stars ride against the same team at home twice consecutively is bad  enough, but twice in one evening isn't exactly inspiring. double headers against 2 teams is one thing, and there is always the option of a "spare" rider for the 2nd meeting if anything should happen,rather than dragging a national league rider out of the crowd and Phoning his dad to bring his bike over! From a fans point of view there would be more interest if wolves could come back for a double a couple of weeks later . 

Edited August 14, 2018 by castrolargh

[Haza 1,766]

13 minutes ago, castrolargh said:

watching the stars ride against the same team at home twice consecutively is bad  enough, but twice in one evening isn't exactly inspiring. double headers against 2 teams is one thing, and there is always the option of a "spare" rider for the 2nd meeting if anything should happen,rather than dragging a national league rider out of the crowd and Phoning his dad to bring his bike over! From a fans point of view there would be more interest if wolves could come back for a double a couple of weeks later . 

Poor planning to be in this position  to have to run double headers and even worse to run against the same team on the same night it should also be remembered that we are one club less than we started the season with and I think Rye would have been at KL next Wednesday so perhaps a triple header could have been run - this sport so needs a shake up a 7 team league and struggling to fit fixtures in , 

[pointsmeanplayoffs 417]

Choosing to not race in the Summer months (again) is coming back to bite the clubs (again).

Until this changes, we'll always have that last minute rush to get meetings in.

If you don't want to go, don't go! The promoters don't want to run double headers (but at this stage they have to), the riders don't want to race them (but they have to) and the supporters don't want them (but can choose not to go).

Sensible approach for me would be for both clubs to agree beforehand to a reduced no. of heats per meeting (11 maybe?), and for the price to be capped at £20 for all punters. We're going to be there for an hour or two longer than usual so are going to buy more beers, snacks and coffee etc.

And from a scoring perspective, the averages and results will still all be above board.

 

 

 

 

[Lefty 1,257]

Thoughts from a Wolves fan....

After another wasted journey, following Somerset (a) rain-off last Wednesday, we stopped in a Pub just of the A14 and discussed the strong possibility of a 'dreaded' double-header next Wednesday. Our ideas for getting the 30 heats run efficiently included:-

1) Moving the starting gate to the other side as it shortens the distance from pits to tapes.

2) Reducing the 2 min time warning to 1 minute. Both teams to agree: Clerk of the course to do his job! * saves 30 mins on the night.

3) First race starts promptly at advertised time.

4) Frank Ebdon as referee.

5) Back-up Medical cover

6) Limited on-track tractor time.

7) Riders to get to the tapes and stay there!

8) Heat 15 line-up to be sorted before heat 14 finishes. ** Team Managers to 'gee;' their riders up.

9) Wolves not to use Sarjeant as a guest!

 

... yes the 'Church End' beer was good.

See you next week for "Midnight In Norfolk".

[Call me wolfie 677]

45 minutes ago, Lefty said:

Thoughts from a Wolves fan....

After another wasted journey, following Somerset (a) rain-off last Wednesday, we stopped in a Pub just of the A14 and discussed the strong possibility of a 'dreaded' double-header next Wednesday. Our ideas for getting the 30 heats run efficiently included:-

1) Moving the starting gate to the other side as it shortens the distance from pits to tapes.

2) Reducing the 2 min time warning to 1 minute. Both teams to agree: Clerk of the course to do his job! * saves 30 mins on the night.

3) First race starts promptly at advertised time.

4) Frank Ebdon as referee.

5) Back-up Medical cover

6) Limited on-track tractor time.

7) Riders to get to the tapes and stay there!

8) Heat 15 line-up to be sorted before heat 14 finishes. ** Team Managers to 'gee;' their riders up.

9) Wolves not to use Sarjeant as a guest!

 

... yes the 'Church End' beer was good.

See you next week for "Midnight In Norfolk".

Not sure about the 1 minute warning, just put the 2 minutes on as soon as the last rider has left the track and no celebration laps after heats should do the trick

[waytogo28 2,054]

4 hours ago, Haza said:

Poor planning to be in this position  to have to run double headers and even worse to run against the same team on the same night it should also be remembered that we are one club less than we started the season with and I think Rye would have been at KL next Wednesday so perhaps a triple header could have been run - this sport so needs a shake up a 7 team league and struggling to fit fixtures in , 

I hope the new reduced size one league is made up of only five teams, so that all the fixtures might possibly be fitted into the normal season. Without the need for doubleheaders V the same team which has been proved to be a ludicrous almost unworkable idea.

And yes as someone posted, if you don't like it - don't go. I won't be going and I bet a considerable number of others won't either.

[g13webb 4,254]

3 hours ago, Lefty said:

Thoughts from a Wolves fan....

After another wasted journey, following Somerset (a) rain-off last Wednesday, we stopped in a Pub just of the A14 and discussed the strong possibility of a 'dreaded' double-header next Wednesday. Our ideas for getting the 30 heats run efficiently included:-

1) Moving the starting gate to the other side as it shortens the distance from pits to tapes.

2) Reducing the 2 min time warning to 1 minute. Both teams to agree: Clerk of the course to do his job! * saves 30 mins on the night.

3) First race starts promptly at advertised time.

4) Frank Ebdon as referee.

5) Back-up Medical cover

6) Limited on-track tractor time.

7) Riders to get to the tapes and stay there!

8) Heat 15 line-up to be sorted before heat 14 finishes. ** Team Managers to 'gee;' their riders up.

9) Wolves not to use Sarjeant as a guest!

 

... yes the 'Church End' beer was good.

See you next week for "Midnight In Norfolk".

Added on to that:   lets say,   No 10)    We need 3  Belle Vue riders standing by in case of injuries or replacements needed.      ( BV is the only team not riding that night.)  We don't need long memories to remember the fiasco of last year when in the second match we only had 4 riders....  

There're nothing good about 'Double Headers' and am surprised the BSPA have taken this route.     Are we to believe then that our two remaining fixtures ( Leicester and Somerset away) are to be  solved by doing more DH's  .   We are planned  to race at Leicester on the 27th,    no reason why we cant turn that into a DH  as well.     

One question,  Why were Poole allowed to race against Leicester on a Thursday  (Non FRN),  when faced  with a similar situation???    They could have had a Double Header when they rode against Leicester  25th July. 

 

[A ORLOV 8,628]

5 minutes ago, g13webb said:

Added on to that:   lets say,   No 10)    We need 3  Belle Vue riders standing by in case of injuries or replacements needed.      ( BV is the only team not riding that night.)  We don't need long memories to remember the fiasco of last year when in the second match we only had 4 riders....  

There're nothing good about 'Double Headers' and am surprised the BSPA have taken this route.     Are we to believe then that our two remaining fixtures ( Leicester and Somerset away) are to be  solved by doing more DH's  .   We are planned  to race at Leicester on the 27th,    no reason why we cant turn that into a DH  as well.     

One question,  Why were Poole allowed to race against Leicester on a Thursday  (Non FRN),  when faced  with a similar situation???    They could have had a Double Header when they rode against Leicester  25th July. 

 

As I understand, any PL meeting can take place on any night providing both teams agree but where there is a d/u rider clash the CH or NL club has priority over the riders.

[Bald Bloke 3,281]

4 minutes ago, A ORLOV said:

As I understand, any PL meeting can take place on any night providing both teams agree but where there is a d/u rider clash the CH or NL club has priority over the riders.

Poole just had a home meeting on a Thursday. Handy cause they might of been missing 3 riders the day before 

 

[Skidder1 7,632]

16 hours ago, Bald Bloke said:

Poole just had a home meeting on a Thursday. Handy cause they might of been missing 3 riders the day before 

 

The day before, their opponents - Leicester - were already riding!

[Star Lady 5,400]

Wonder why this is not being ridden today. Wednesday is one of the FRNs, the weather is good, neither team has another fixture in the calendar

 

Maybe next year  all matches cancelled on Mondays must be ridden on the following Wednesday. Matches cancelled on Wednesdays must be ridden on the following Monday. Just need to compile the fixtures so each club rides Monday one week and Wednesday the next. Can't be more difficult to work out than the current mess of a fixture list.

 

 

 

 

[Danny Connor 351]

I’m looking forward to the meetings. Needs must to get fixtures in by cut off. 2 meetings in 1 night for less than double price. Only 1 program, 1 drink, 1 fuel cost. It’s not the end of the world. They make up for it in reduced expenses.I hope they have a decent rider or 2 on stand by to learn from previous mistakes and I hope the riders are on board with it too. Fingers crossed 6 points.

[Kickitov 104]

49 minutes ago, Star Lady said:

Wonder why this is not being ridden today. Wednesday is one of the FRNs, the weather is good, neither team has another fixture in the calendar

 

Maybe next year  all matches cancelled on Mondays must be ridden on the following Wednesday. Matches cancelled on Wednesdays must be ridden on the following Monday. Just need to compile the fixtures so each club rides Monday one week and Wednesday the next. Can't be more difficult to work out than the current mess of a fixture list.

 

 

 

 

Surely they'll avoid Wednesday's completely next season. Guess it depends on the vote from Championship clubs!!

[waytogo28 2,054]

If you have three, four or five Danish riders ( or even one or two ) Wednesdays will be Way Off Limits ( unless somebody in the promotion forgets about Denmark having priority ).