Sprocket 22 Posted August 16, 2018 5 minutes ago, Solidmango said: People seem to forget these guys don’t get paid if they don’t ride. It’s very easy to sit here and say they should’ve done this that and the next thing. Im sure the decision wasn’t taken lightly. Perhaps not lightly, but certainly far too late for all the paying public who have spent their time and money. I can't think of many other sports where this sort of situation would occur. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Icicle 896 Posted August 16, 2018 However if there was even the hint that the riders could be fined for either "withholding services" or "bringing sport into disrepute" there would have at least some riders out testing the track instead of armwaving nonsense & no comment to public. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spl77 337 Posted August 16, 2018 Seems as if it could have been cook refusing to ride that played a major part if twitter is to be believed. You would have thought he would want to see British speedway survive as he has no chance of earning a living from the Grand prix, speedway World Cup or Polish league judging by his performances in these competitions. Very over rated! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Baldyman 6,243 Posted August 16, 2018 1 minute ago, Spl77 said: Seems as if it could have been cook refusing to ride that played a major part if twitter is to be believed. You would have thought he would want to see British speedway survive as he has no chance of earning a living from the Grand prix, speedway World Cup or Polish league judging by his performances in these competitions. Very over rated! According to Harris no one wanted to race on it, so not just cook....no one. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Badge 5,119 Posted August 16, 2018 5 minutes ago, Baldyman said: According to Harris no one wanted to race on it, so not just cook....no one. Hate to call Harris a liar but Richard Lawson said he would have ridden Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawk127 1,357 Posted August 16, 2018 11 minutes ago, Solidmango said: People seem to forget these guys don’t get paid if they don’t ride. It’s very easy to sit here and say they should’ve done this that and the next thing. Im sure the decision wasn’t taken lightly. No one forgets this but unless the conditions are perfect the riders are refusing to get a meeting on. If they perceive the risks are too great and this is becoming the norm where anything other than perfect conditions (which is a personal rider view rather than a collective team view) is an excuse not to ride then find another job. This simply did not happen in years gone by but today’s riders are unwilling to give it a go and if they fear they cannot control the machines then it is something that they need to deal with and adapt the bikes accordingly but it is not the paying public who should be punished for these riders lack of skills in tackling the conditions. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mark 1,497 Posted August 16, 2018 Chris Louis has apologised to fans via twitter. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cityrebel 2,960 Posted August 16, 2018 I went to the IOW tonight. The track was a bit tricky early doors, but the riders just got on with it. After the first tractor grade it was fine. It does seem to be a different sport at NL level. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Argos 262 Posted August 16, 2018 34 minutes ago, Solidmango said: People seem to forget these guys don’t get paid if they don’t ride. It’s very easy to sit here and say they should’ve done this that and the next thing. Im sure the decision wasn’t taken lightly. How do you make that out? Tonight hasn’t cost the riders anything it will be rerun, Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gazc 7,087 Posted August 16, 2018 (edited) On 8/16/2018 at 10:34 PM, Badge said: Hate to call Harris a liar but Richard Lawson said he would have ridden Maybe Richard told you what you wanted to hear, behind the scenes though. Edited August 17, 2018 by Gazc Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WembleyLion 411 Posted August 16, 2018 2 hours ago, Sprocket said: I couldn't hear any bikes being warmed up, and Glasgow not even changed. You have to wonder if certain riders had already made their minds up! I’m sorry to say that in recent times I have seen a bit more of this not getting changed tactic deployed by riders! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cyclone 943 Posted August 16, 2018 36 minutes ago, Baldyman said: According to Harris no one wanted to race on it, so not just cook....no one. 30 minutes ago, Badge said: Hate to call Harris a liar but Richard Lawson said he would have ridden Harris not necessarily lying, Lawson might well have said he would have ridden, although he might not have wanted to. Agree riders are now more reluctant to ride in adverse conditions, but imo this is because today's machines are faster than before and are more difficult to control on less than perfect track surfaces. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SharpenRake 1,505 Posted August 16, 2018 Really disappointed the match was postponed. I really hate rain offs and even more annoying in view of the great weather weve had for once throughout the UK. However a bit surprised by some of the comments on here saying that in the good old days riders would have given it a go. in the good old days bikes were diferent and it seems that modern bikes and therefore modern riders can't cope with wet or heavy conditions. Fans also complain that the sport is ftg in most races. Well one thing is for sure in wet conditions it would become a gaters paradise. do fans really want to see a boring match in poor conditions? as someone else said this is about getting meetings completed before the play-offs when it should be about entertaining the public. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fromafar 10,333 Posted August 16, 2018 (edited) 9 hours ago, Hawk127 said: No one forgets this but unless the conditions are perfect the riders are refusing to get a meeting on. If they perceive the risks are too great and this is becoming the norm where anything other than perfect conditions (which is a personal rider view rather than a collective team view) is an excuse not to ride then find another job. This simply did not happen in years gone by but today’s riders are unwilling to give it a go and if they fear they cannot control the machines then it is something that they need to deal with and adapt the bikes accordingly but it is not the paying public who should be punished for these riders lack of skills in tackling the conditions. Agree,that's the reason I don't leave the house if there is a cloud in the sky,the people running the the sport and the riders have brought this situation on themselves,there technical solutions regarding Machinary and Track prep but the head is in the sand from the people running the show.There will be an excess of riders in GB just shortly.Sad days. Edited August 17, 2018 by Fromafar Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Paulco 7,072 Posted August 16, 2018 Where was the referee when all this head shaking and track kicking was going on ? Does the referee not have the final say on whether a meeting is off or on anymore ? 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
