acef 795 Posted December 19, 2018 On 12/18/2018 at 10:55 AM, DC2 said: If Rosco saw a BSPA riders' average list that included the ridiculously low ones being applied to L Bjerre, Barker, Busk Jacobsen and Rasmus Jensen, what made him think Lampart was a good signing on 4.56? Lampart is a really big risk imo. He was poor here the last time and I’ve not seen enough development internationally to make me think he will be any better this time. Swindon have the best top 3. Period. It’s absolute quality and it will drag them through the majority of meetings but I think they will just miss the mark when it really matters with that tail. It’s just too long. They will easily make the play offs though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hagonshocker 1,956 Posted December 19, 2018 (edited) 3 hours ago, acef said: Lampart is a really big risk imo. He was poor here the last time and I’ve not seen enough development internationally to make me think he will be any better this time. Swindon have the best top 3. Period. It’s absolute quality and it will drag them through the majority of meetings but I think they will just miss the mark when it really matters with that tail. It’s just too long. They will easily make the play offs though. Poor? Averaged 4-5 and unquestionably a better rider than he was back then....He's not signed as a big hitter but someone who can average at least 5.....if he doesn't cut the mustard then shouldn't be too hard to to replace but I'm confident he will do ok Edited December 19, 2018 by hagonshocker 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reliant Robin 492 Posted December 20, 2018 14 hours ago, hagonshocker said: Poor? Averaged 4-5 and unquestionably a better rider than he was back then....He's not signed as a big hitter but someone who can average at least 5.....if he doesn't cut the mustard then shouldn't be too hard to to replace but I'm confident he will do ok Exactly that, he'll do the job he has been brought in to do. 6-7 at home and 5 away would be what I'd expect. On a 4.58 average. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DC2 11,150 Posted December 20, 2018 11 minutes ago, Reliant Robin said: Exactly that, he'll do the job he has been brought in to do. 6-7 at home and 5 away would be what I'd expect. On a 4.58 average. 5 away from a number two, riding in three races with his own number 1 and against opposition heatleaders? Away, the only expectation should be two points in heat 8; any more is a bonus. But hagonshocker is right, with the 1.5 conversion rate there are plenty of good CL riders who could replace him (including Summers 4.58 and Rasmus Jensen). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reliant Robin 492 Posted December 20, 2018 1 minute ago, DC2 said: 5 away from a number two, riding in three races with his own number 1 and against opposition heatleaders? Away, the only expectation should be two points in heat 8; any more is a bonus. But hagonshocker is right, with the 1.5 conversion rate there are plenty of good CL riders who could replace him (including Summers 4.58 and Rasmus Jensen). I know it doesn't always convert to UK form, but have you actually taken a look at his progress since he last rode for Swindon? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DC2 11,150 Posted December 20, 2018 2 minutes ago, Reliant Robin said: I know it doesn't always convert to UK form, but have you actually taken a look at his progress since he last rode for Swindon? Yes, I've looked at sportowefacty for his Polish form and it's unspectacular. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reliant Robin 492 Posted December 20, 2018 6 minutes ago, DC2 said: Yes, I've looked at sportowefacty for his Polish form and it's unspectacular. I guess we'll see then, but I'm thinking my 5 points away over the course of the season will be closer than the 2 points you predict Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sidney the robin 4,735 Posted December 20, 2018 19 hours ago, acef said: Lampart is a really big risk imo. He was poor here the last time and I’ve not seen enough development internationally to make me think he will be any better this time. Swindon have the best top 3. Period. It’s absolute quality and it will drag them through the majority of meetings but I think they will just miss the mark when it really matters with that tail. It’s just too long. They will easily make the play offs though. Lampart actually did not do to badly over here in 2012. he averaged overall around 5.83.He contributed quite alot that year and arguably it was a tougher league then.But make no mistake it is a tough ask for him but if he can average 5 i will be happy if not we can replace him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DC2 11,150 Posted December 20, 2018 10 minutes ago, Reliant Robin said: I guess we'll see then, but I'm thinking my 5 points away over the course of the season will be closer than the 2 points you predict No, I said 2 points in heat 8 was the only reasonable expectation, but you'd also hope a favourable gate or good start in two of his other rides might gain points. Any number two scoring 4 away has done well, unless of course he's against a weaker opposition number two, in which case 4 points is a reasonable expectation and 6 is doing well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hyabb17 1,077 Posted December 20, 2018 1 hour ago, DC2 said: No, I said 2 points in heat 8 was the only reasonable expectation, but you'd also hope a favourable gate or good start in two of his other rides might gain points. Any number two scoring 4 away has done well, unless of course he's against a weaker opposition number two, in which case 4 points is a reasonable expectation and 6 is doing well. Rosco has said that Ellis may ride at 2 & then pair the Poles together. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Weasel 306 Posted December 20, 2018 6 minutes ago, BLACKHEART said: Would be a crazy decision Remind us....How many Elite League teams have you managed to the title? 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Weasel 306 Posted December 20, 2018 1 hour ago, BLACKHEART said: Irrelevant. I am spot on. Lampart rides with less pressure being partnered with the best rider in the league who will win near enough every race he competes in and it also gets Dawid's rides out of the way in the early part of the meeting which benefits Swindon. Not necessarily, position 2 is no gimme - you're partnered by your own #1 in 3 races and in Swindon's case that's one of the best riders in the world, whilst the opposition you face is similar whether you line up at 2/3 or 4. Adam is good enough to be a Heat Leader at Blunsdon and pairing him with Doyle could get Swindon on the front foot early, particularly at home. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevehone 3,412 Posted December 20, 2018 if Ellis is number 2 i can see him getting a massive amount of bonus points which obviously don't count towards team building, so could help further along the line 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GAH 409 Posted January 11, 2019 any news on the track ?? it seems to have gone very quiet ??? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
A ORLOV 8,628 Posted January 11, 2019 24 minutes ago, geoff58 said: any news on the track ?? it seems to have gone very quiet ??? No Share this post Link to post Share on other sites