GWC 495 Posted August 29, 2018 As someone alluded to it can be advantageous to have a sensation in reserve longer to benefit points scoring. That really only makes a big difference when the team is already quite strong. When he goes into the team someone just as strong comes down. However with so many riders now at a level of similar ability it is giving some teams too much advantage. So yes it is time to change the reserve riders back to their original reason for existing - breaking tapes or injury. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IronScorpion 1,407 Posted August 29, 2018 quote So yes it is time to change the reserve riders back to their original reason for existing - breaking tapes or injury. But that could lead to a poor scoring rider touching or breaking tapes tactically to bring in a good scoring reserve. This, also, leads to longer meetings. Keep still at the tapes until they rise. Touching or breaking the tapes leads to a disqualification & no replacement. Rider suffers(lack of pay) & team suffers(1 team member in race). No advantage gained through unsporting tactics. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coventry_Bee 467 Posted August 29, 2018 I just think when a reserve wins heat 15 you have to look and think it's not right. Where did it change from when I started going where reserves scored 4 or 5 and that was expected, home reserves are nearing double figures and away reserves are pushing 5 between them and the final scores are overwhelmingly influenced by this. In my view the top 5 are the points scorers and the reserves are the lower level riders who should be up and coming and progressing, but at the moment your heat leader can score 3 points and yet the reserve bangs in double figures and meeting won !! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RS50 359 Posted August 29, 2018 10 minutes ago, IronScorpion said: quote So yes it is time to change the reserve riders back to their original reason for existing - breaking tapes or injury. But that could lead to a poor scoring rider touching or breaking tapes tactically to bring in a good scoring reserve. This, also, leads to longer meetings. Keep still at the tapes until they rise. Touching or breaking the tapes leads to a disqualification & no replacement. Rider suffers(lack of pay) & team suffers(1 team member in race). No advantage gained through unsporting tactics. You mention tape offences. Very often a team manager has 3 choices. Put the offender off 15 metres handicap or assuming it's not a reserve committing the offence use number 6 or 7 as replacement. How about as an idea to make starting offences potentially less beneficial let the opposition team manager make the decision. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
oldtimer 340 Posted September 7, 2018 You could have a max 6 rides for reserves but a rule that a reserve can take more rides if the other reserve is injured or if more than one rider is injured. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Crump99 4,474 Posted September 11, 2018 On 8/29/2018 at 10:34 AM, Daniel Smith said: The dont think need for reserves is necessary any more. I'd still keep it 7 man teams, make the top 2 rider's at 1 & 5, and the 2 lowest at 6 & 7. our local rag says "Panthers go to Birmingham on Wednesday (September 12) for an inter-league challenge. Both clubs will track six-man sides with the sport’s bosses understood to be considering that format for all meetings next season. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
