Pirates Of Poole 759 Posted November 16, 2018 5 hours ago, Skidder1 said: Harris isn't a Poole asset so Poole will not necessarily have first choice!!! According to several at Somerset, Jack has 'matured' somewhat - certainly his racing has, so hopefully has his attitude. I would be very surprised if Jack wasn’t included in the 2019 team, my only concern his 7.35 average I likely to make him number 1, we would then require a Chris Holder 7.16 or similar rider in the team to take the number 1 strain after the first set of averages. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Starman2006 2,353 Posted November 16, 2018 5 hours ago, Skidder1 said: Harris isn't a Poole asset so Poole will not necessarily have first choice!!! According to several at Somerset, Jack has 'matured' somewhat - certainly his racing has, so hopefully has his attitude. Gary May has not had a single problem with him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
STEVEHOLS54 380 Posted November 16, 2018 10 minutes ago, Pirates Of Poole said: I would be very surprised if Jack wasn’t included in the 2019 team, my only concern his 7.35 average I likely to make him number 1, we would then require a Chris Holder 7.16 or similar rider in the team to take the number 1 strain after the first set of averages. Also worth mentioning the Bonus points not included in the GSA's. In 24 matches in 2018 Jack scored 25 bonus points which was more than any Somerset rider. Only 3 riders Prem riders matched or better in 2018 in total. One of those was Woryna who matched 25. After what happened with Brady in 2018 I am always wary of how things will go. Similar to Morris who dropped way off compared to 2017 (like Brady and Nick both fell in similar terms). But what you can't dismiss is that all 3 of those riders have potential and come season start Jack at 23 - Nick at 24 and Brady at 22 all have the potential to push on. I would happily have all 3 as feel all of them will improve even if one maybe doesnt increase at all. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
STEVEHOLS54 380 Posted November 16, 2018 7 minutes ago, STEVEHOLS54 said: Also worth mentioning the Bonus points not included in the GSA's. In 24 matches in 2018 Jack scored 25 bonus points which was more than any Somerset rider. Only 3 riders Prem riders matched or better in 2018 in total. One of those was Woryna who matched 25. After what happened with Brady in 2018 I am always wary of how things will go. Similar to Morris who dropped way off compared to 2017 (like Brady and Nick both fell in similar terms). But what you can't dismiss is that all 3 of those riders have potential and come season start Jack at 23 - Nick at 24 and Brady at 22 all have the potential to push on. I would happily have all 3 as feel all of them will improve even if one maybe doesnt increase at all. Before anyone says yes but he had Doyle in the team. Yes he did but as we all know Doyle doesn't normally team ride being very much a self interest rider. You have to still beat the 2 opposition riders and if you have a team mate mainly interested in only gate and go then you still have to do the work to get a BP. Arguably even more with Doyle in your team ;-) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ray c 2,299 Posted November 16, 2018 7 minutes ago, Starman2006 said: Gary May has not had a single problem with him. Does that mean that gary may got a better relationship with his riders ? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BluPanther 21,637 Posted November 16, 2018 Just now, ray c said: Does that mean that gary may got a better relationship with his riders ? A year older, a year wiser maybe. Can only see Jack improving again next year, would love him back at the Showground ... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Steve Shovlar 10,424 Posted November 16, 2018 35 minutes ago, Starman2006 said: Gary May has not had a single problem with him. Not true at all. May had to threaten him with the sack. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gavan 5,049 Posted November 16, 2018 Jack Holder a far better option than Chris Harris for Poole surely. Harris has the odd good race here and there like beating Doyle, he is a crowd pleaser and probably good for team moral, but he is only going one way and that is down and Jack Holder going the other way. I would imagine Poole will go with Kurtz Jack Holder Klindt Jacobsen Then fill in the gaps, possibly Woryna but he showed last season that unless he was at reserve he didnt do that well. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Noodles 1,337 Posted November 16, 2018 3 hours ago, foreverblue said: It is up to Harris where he rides, it is his choice. I don't think he is an asset of any club. Jack is a terrific rider but I am not convinced he has matured enough yet. Peterborough asset Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Starman2006 2,353 Posted November 16, 2018 1 hour ago, Steve Shovlar said: Not true at all. May had to threaten him with the sack. Not what he told me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lisa-colette 5,993 Posted November 16, 2018 1 minute ago, Starman2006 said: Not what he told me. Prob doesn't want it broadcast on the forum! 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Starman2006 2,353 Posted November 16, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, Gavan said: Jack Holder a far better option than Chris Harris for Poole surely. Harris has the odd good race here and there like beating Doyle, he is a crowd pleaser and probably good for team moral, but he is only going one way and that is down and Jack Holder going the other way. I would imagine Poole will go with Kurtz Jack Holder Klindt Jacobsen Then fill in the gaps, possibly Woryna but he showed last season that unless he was at reserve he didnt do that well. I think Matt will find it very hard to leave Chris out after last season, but as ive said before even Chris will freely admit he is not a No 1 but he is captain matierial definately.. All your said riders have the abillity to improve again.. Edited November 16, 2018 by Starman2006 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lisa-colette 5,993 Posted November 16, 2018 1 hour ago, Gavan said: Jack Holder a far better option than Chris Harris for Poole surely. Harris has the odd good race here and there like beating Doyle, he is a crowd pleaser and probably good for team moral, but he is only going one way and that is down and Jack Holder going the other way. I would imagine Poole will go with Kurtz Jack Holder Klindt Jacobsen Then fill in the gaps, possibly Woryna but he showed last season that unless he was at reserve he didnt do that well. Think you are underestimating the importance of team spirit, but you do at least have Klindt in there, so I'll let you off! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Starman2006 2,353 Posted November 16, 2018 Just now, lisa-colette said: Prob doesn't want it broadcast on the forum! Gary doesnt tell rubbish, he says it as it is. If he did give Jack a boll--cking then it would have been early days, but he's had no problem with him last season. And i would believe Gary. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Steve Shovlar 10,424 Posted November 16, 2018 Jack Holder and BWD were having “a slight disagreement” with each other and Gary had to sort it out by threatening to sack both. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites