Poole 2019

[foreverblue 6,079]

1 hour ago, Gavan said:

Especially as it now seems Jack Holder is Belle Vue bound

Poole need to find a number one as that strength in depth route only won them the league because of the other teams injuries, cant see how Poole could have beat Somerset or Kings Lynn if both had fully fit 1-7. That isnt Pooles fault but they certainly had all the luck at the right time.

Certain teams appear to be building very strong like Swindon and Wolves and Kings Lynn.

People will say Poole always come up with a good side.......they dont...........last seasons original 1-7 was shockingly poor and only due to the fact Matt Ford throws his money around , and the pure fortune that Harris became available did they climb the league

 

 

I think most thought including the bookies that Poole's original starting 1-7 was good with one or two question marks. One of the main reasons for our slow start was Chris Holder being unable to ride, compounded by a slow start by one of two others like Josh and Brady didn't help, Szczpaniek was a mistake but understandable to get him as his form in Poland the previous season was very good.

There is no doubt we got a bit of luck in the play offs but luck is part of all sport. Harris obviously was a major boost to the team and it is a shame he can't be fitted in but that's how the averages work sometimes.

Peterborough also looking strong with Hans and Harris in my opinion.

We won't have a true number one this season I think that is a given but I hope we have someone other than Kurtz as the top rider or at least someone capable of holding down the number one spot because Kurtz has proved he isn't good enough for that position.

[Starman2006 2,354]

2 hours ago, Gavan said:

I couldnt care less where we finish as long as the club and the sport survive but thats the difference in your mentality. You would rather win the league and watch clubs disappear.

If we come bottom i dont mind as long as we get value for money in the racing and the club doesnt go under

Really, ands where have i said that ? Clearly you are finding it hard to come up with something, so you invent it.. But we will win the league, again..

[Wee Eck 703]

2 hours ago, semion said:

250k, have they been queuing for that one?  Must be a lot of goodwill factored into that valuation.  Would love to see the EBITDA to understand how that figure was arrived at.

On a multiple of earnings basis, whether you use EBITDA or FME, the business is worth well in excess of £250k. The problem is that the success of Poole as a business has been down to Ford getting some very valuable sponsors. Without him, would anyone else be able to raise as much?

[dontforgetthefueltapsbruv 10,693]

4 minutes ago, Wee Eck said:

On a multiple of earnings basis, whether you use EBITDA or FME, the business is worth well in excess of £250k. The problem is that the success of Poole as a business has been down to Ford getting some very valuable sponsors. Without him, would anyone else be able to raise as much?

Are you saying earnings as in turnover rather than profit?

Edited December 8, 2018 by dontforgetthefueltapsbruv

[A ORLOV 8,628]

15 minutes ago, Wee Eck said:

On a multiple of earnings basis, whether you use EBITDA or FME, the business is worth well in excess of £250k. The problem is that the success of Poole as a business has been down to Ford getting some very valuable sponsors. Without him, would anyone else be able to raise as much?

Tell that to an accountant and you will be laughed out of his office, riders and sponsors are not assets, therefore have no value.

The riders, just like is seems that C Holder might, can just walk away and sponsors, as some have done, stop sponsoring.  

"without him (Ford), would anyone else be able to raise as much", the likely answer is no.

Edited December 8, 2018 by A ORLOV

[Steve0 5,517]

5 minutes ago, Wee Eck said:

On a multiple of earnings basis, whether you use EBITDA or FME, the business is worth well in excess of £250k. The problem is that the success of Poole as a business has been down to Ford getting some very valuable sponsors. Without him, would anyone else be able to raise as much?

What about Harry Redknapp when he leaves the jungle - he lives locally

[Bradford Ace 183]

Heard of a few rumored Belle Vue 1-7’s from good sources and Jack Holder not mentioned in any of them although I would love him at The Aces.

Thought him and Kurtz were nailed on as the top 2???

Edited December 8, 2018 by Bradford Ace

[poolebolton 464]

9 minutes ago, Bradford Ace said:

Heard of a few rumored Belle Vue 1-7’s from good sources and Jack Holder not mentioned in any of them although I would love him at The Aces.

Thought him and Kurtz were nailed on as the top 2???

They are. 

Welcome to the BSF. 

[Wee Eck 703]

1 hour ago, A ORLOV said:

Tell that to an accountant and you will be laughed out of his office, riders and sponsors are not assets, therefore have no value.

The riders, just like is seems that C Holder might, can just walk away and sponsors, as some have done, stop sponsoring.  

"without him (Ford), would anyone else be able to raise as much", the likely answer is no.

Both EBITDA and FME are means to derive a value using earnings, not assets

[dontforgetthefueltapsbruv 10,693]

2 minutes ago, Wee Eck said:

Both EBITDA and FME are means to derive a value using earnings, not assets

Again then earnings meaning what - turnover or profit?

[Arthur54 1,300]

15 hours ago, DC2 said:

 

Everyone laughed at Poole this year. You were rubbish.

Chris Harris was good though.   

 

We were rubbish but still won it, says a lot for the rest then 

[A ORLOV 8,628]

12 minutes ago, Wee Eck said:

Both EBITDA and FME are means to derive a value using earnings, not assets

Which would reduce the value as nett earnings, excluding sponsorship money, would not be high, as it seems that Matt, along with most speedway promoters,  needs sponsors to cover many of the costs.  No or a reduced number of sponsors equates to less profit.  Then with speedway having a dodgy future and very little security of continuing not many would pay a lot for it unless they wanted to cover a large tax loss.

If you can find the profits made each year that would be a good start.

[poolebolton 464]

10 minutes ago, BLACKHEART said:

Kacper Woryna & James Shanes not being considered for a team place in 2019. I personally think Jakobsen will be the No.2 and Jake Allen the No.7. Possible combinations for the final team places.

2. Fredrik Jakobsen & 7. Jake Allen = 9.60

2. Linus Sundstrom & 7. Stefan Nielsen = 9.61

2. Fredrik Jakobsen & 7. Thomas H Jonaason = 9.68

2. Richie Worrall & 7. Josh Pickering = 9.67

2. Richie Worrall & 7. Rasmus Jensen = 9.99

 

1. Jack Holder 7.39

2.

3. Josh Grajczonek 6.70

4. Nicolai Klindt 6.61

5. Brady Kurtz 7.05

6. Nico Covatti 4.70

7.

10.05

None of them are right 

[Starman2006 2,354]

1 hour ago, Arthur54 said:

We were rubbish but still won it, says a lot for the rest then 

Another one who has nothing sensible to say mate, so makes it up.. Its called sour grapes mate..  They need to get there order in now for next October..

[scottyfan 824]

16 hours ago, DC2 said:

 

Everyone laughed at Poole this year. You were rubbish.

Chris Harris was good though.   

 

Poole might have been rubbish, but Swindon were MUCH MUCH worse.....

Edited December 8, 2018 by scottyfan