89buttons 751 Posted August 27, 2019 7 minutes ago, stevebrum said: The likes of Nilsson, Berntzon, Thorssell have also all represented their country in GPs and WTC since 2014 and Thorssell is current Swedish Champion. All are achieving better in Sweden these days so are comfortably ahead of him these days. The Swedes haven’t produced anyone of suitable class on the big stage since Lindgren and Lindback, with only Ljung a possible candidate. Sweden are in a worse state than GB for producing the next generation. Agree, and incidentally Ljung is older than both Lindgren and Lindbäck, and hasn’t been as successful as an individual in gps etc. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flagrag 704 Posted August 27, 2019 When THJ came over here for Kings Lynn he couldn’t be bothered and was riding a MDL riders bikes and just brought random engine over with him he didn’t even bring back protector and gloves. This year i understand he his bringing complete bikes,toolkit and mechanic with him so should be better 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Badge 5,125 Posted August 27, 2019 1 hour ago, Gavan said: Josh is a loss at Foxhall goes well at ours. Has THJ ever ridden Foxhall? I may be wrong Cant see r/r for Josh getting more than 7 from those 4 unless either Covatti or Wells are flying Well nico was flying when he guested for us, so it's possible Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Steve0 5,517 Posted August 27, 2019 Not someone I would have signed but he will either be a hero (like Harris last year) or a dud (like T Lahti) but probably the best available around with the potential to be better than his average suggests. We will see... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Weasel 306 Posted August 27, 2019 14 minutes ago, flagrag said: When THJ came over here for Kings Lynn he couldn’t be bothered and was riding a MDL riders bikes and just brought random engine over with him he didn’t even bring back protector and gloves. This year i understand he his bringing complete bikes,toolkit and mechanic with him so should be better Didn't he have more hair too? 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Arthur54 1,300 Posted August 27, 2019 1 hour ago, The Weasel said: Tell you what would lower the wage bill.....if the Poole 'Penny Pinching' Pirates had put up more of a fight at the new Abbey. Bet the wage bill was high last night Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Starman2006 2,354 Posted August 27, 2019 12 minutes ago, Steve0 said: Not someone I would have signed but he will either be a hero (like Harris last year) or a dud (like T Lahti) but probably the best available around with the potential to be better than his average suggests. We will see... Glad your not a promoter then Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gavan 5,049 Posted August 27, 2019 26 minutes ago, Steve0 said: Not someone I would have signed but he will either be a hero (like Harris last year) or a dud (like T Lahti) but probably the best available around with the potential to be better than his average suggests. We will see... Spot on i would suggest I was hopeful Josh would be fit for Thursday as im sure THJ wont get as much as r/r for Worall would have done at Foxhall 13 minutes ago, Starman2006 said: Glad your not a promoter then Very strange response Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Steve Shovlar 10,439 Posted August 27, 2019 33 minutes ago, Arthur54 said: Bet the wage bill was high last night That score would have been the very last thing the Swindon promotion wanted or needed. A crippler for them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevebrum 6,820 Posted August 27, 2019 1 hour ago, 89buttons said: Agree, and incidentally Ljung is older than both Lindgren and Lindbäck, and hasn’t been as successful as an individual in gps etc. Yes true, Ljung seems to be able to pull out decent races at World level without ever really looking like a world class rider. And yes fair point he around before both named Swedes. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ray c 2,299 Posted August 27, 2019 51 minutes ago, Steve0 said: Not someone I would have signed but he will either be a hero (like Harris last year) or a dud (like T Lahti) but probably the best available around with the potential to be better than his average suggests. We will see... lahti ok for us when he came in. in a difficult season Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Weasel 306 Posted August 27, 2019 15 minutes ago, Steve Shovlar said: That score would have been the very last thing the Swindon promotion wanted or needed. A crippler for them. All we need is a bit of the Poole supporting mentality, you know, when the 4k Play Off supporting 'Santas' turn up for their annual visit for the Home Leg of the PO Final. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Col 854 Posted August 27, 2019 1 hour ago, stevebrum said: The likes of Nilsson, Berntzon, Thorssell have also all represented their country in GPs and WTC since 2014 and Thorssell is current Swedish Champion. All are achieving better in Sweden these days so are comfortably ahead of him these days. The Swedes haven’t produced anyone of suitable class on the big stage since Lindgren and Lindback, with only Ljung a possible candidate. Sweden are in a worse state than GB for producing the next generation. Ljung is 3 years older than Lindgren & Lindback! Nilsson & Berntzon represented Sweden in the Speedway World Cup of 2014 when they failed to make the final. Hardly a CV enhancing performance that. I can't think that Thorsell has represented Sweden at any Speedway World Cup. I'm certain if you look back at Elitserien & Ekstraliga stats for Jonasson he compares well to Thorsell, Berntzon & Nilsson over the course of his career. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevebrum 6,820 Posted August 27, 2019 9 minutes ago, Col said: Ljung is 3 years older than Lindgren & Lindback! Nilsson & Berntzon represented Sweden in the Speedway World Cup of 2014 when they failed to make the final. Hardly a CV enhancing performance that. I can't think that Thorsell has represented Sweden at any Speedway World Cup. I'm certain if you look back at Elitserien & Ekstraliga stats for Jonasson he compares well to Thorsell, Berntzon & Nilsson over the course of his career. Already stated that Ljung is older. We aren’t ‘looking over his career’ we are looking at what he has to offer now. I think we can all agree that Sweden haven’t produced any World class riders since Freddie and Antonio, which I think was the point we were discussing. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lisa-colette 6,022 Posted August 27, 2019 1 hour ago, The Weasel said: All we need is a bit of the Poole supporting mentality, you know, when the 4k Play Off supporting 'Santas' turn up for their annual visit for the Home Leg of the PO Final. Happens at every track! Rosco was complaining about Swindon's crowd level a couple of weeks ago! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites