Daniel Smith 5,659 Posted September 27, 2018 14 minutes ago, Steve Shovlar said: Kings Lynn are massive favourites with the bookies to win the title as can be seen. Can they cope with all that pressure? Maybe, maybe not but one thing for certain is I fully expect something to go wrong for us. Winning the top league has always been a bit of a bogey for this club. There is some kind of voodoo over us. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gavan 5,049 Posted September 27, 2018 (edited) 27 minutes ago, Steve Shovlar said: Kings Lynn are massive favourites with the bookies to win the title as can be seen. Can they cope with all that pressure? They are huge favourites because of he fact they are pretty much in the final but then again I wouldn’t expect you to know how odds work. Lets say in a two legged football match semi final that match one between Chelsea v Liverpool ends 0-3 to Liverpool (similar to Lynn at Belle Vue) and the other match between Man Utd at home to Man City ends 1-1 ( similar to Somerset v Poole) Quite clearly Liverpool would be hot favourites to win the final (like Lynn) as they are pretty much there where as Man City still have a bit of work to do (like Poole) Thats how odds are worked out. Trust me if it’s Lynn v Poole they will be similar in odds for the final it’s just at the moment one team is a near certainty to be in the final the other is likely to but not certain Or do you think it will be 8/15 and 9/4 in the final lol Edited September 27, 2018 by Gavan Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bagpuss 10,779 Posted September 27, 2018 Considering our last two results away st Poole and Somerset I’m surprised at our odds. However I don’t expect anything the bookies say to affect our riders, but being in the final if we get there might. Not many of our riders have been there before. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
semion 2,192 Posted September 27, 2018 Let’s not forget to factor in the experience of messrs Ford and M’Ditch. They have been there and done it so many times before. Put that up against an inexperienced Manager in Allit. For me, it will be a major shock if Poole don’t take this final with some comfort. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
racers and royals 8,723 Posted September 27, 2018 (edited) The October green sheets mean that Cook(if fit) takes the 1 above R/R ride for Bewley instead of Tungate who now can`t take one. Edited September 27, 2018 by racers and royals Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
g13webb 4,254 Posted September 27, 2018 (edited) 23 minutes ago, Bagpuss said: Considering our last two results away st Poole and Somerset I’m surprised at our odds. However I don’t expect anything the bookies say to affect our riders, but being in the final if we get there might. Not many of our riders have been there before. Have faith, I believe we are more than capable of doing the business, whoever we meet in the final.... I'm sure Dale Allitt , sorry Dale Ali. will get the riders dialled in and ride like their lives depend on it.... This year is OUR time...…. Edited September 27, 2018 by g13webb Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
semion 2,192 Posted September 27, 2018 Let’s not also forget the massive support that Poole enjoy which will have a lifting effect on thier riders. i don’t think Lynn should under estimate the job ahead Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bald Bloke 3,284 Posted September 27, 2018 1 hour ago, Steve Shovlar said: Kings Lynn are massive favourites with the bookies to win the title as can be seen. Can they cope with all that pressure? Probably because they have one very big foot in the final. Can they cope, I bloody hope so, but who knows. I wouldn't put my money on them at those odds.... I see Poole getting past the Rebels in the 2nd leg and it will be a Lynn v Poole final. I'm not bigging Poole up for a reaction either, remember I was offering a £100 bet on Poole making the play offs when they were bottom As much as I hate to say it, Over 2 legs I would make Poole favourites. I think you would if you were honest. I will be happy to take all the flack I might get if i'm wrong 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bellevueace 913 Posted September 27, 2018 (edited) On 9/26/2018 at 7:56 PM, stevebrum said: 14 point home win. I would agree with that Edited September 27, 2018 by bellevueace Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gavan 5,049 Posted September 27, 2018 1 hour ago, Bald Bloke said: Probably because they have one very big foot in the final. Can they cope, I bloody hope so, but who knows. I wouldn't put my money on them at those odds.... I see Poole getting past the Rebels in the 2nd leg and it will be a Lynn v Poole final. I'm not bigging Poole up for a reaction either, remember I was offering a £100 bet on Poole making the play offs when they were bottom As much as I hate to say it, Over 2 legs I would make Poole favourites. I think you would if you were honest. I will be happy to take all the flack I might get if i'm wrong Correct they are pretty much guaranteed to be in the final hence the short odds. Irrelevant of who their opponents are those odds will drift as soon as both teams are known. Bookmakers work to a percentage overound so at the moment 3 teams (barring an amazing Belle Vue comeback) can win the league. One is those is in the final pretty much so they are always going to be much shorter than the other 2. Its basic odds compiling. If Poole would have won by 8.....and Belle Vue v Lynn was closer say a 6 point Belle Vue win , then Poole would be long odds on favourites. If it’s Kings Lynn v Poole final then it will be Kings Lynn as slight favourites but only just Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bald Bloke 3,284 Posted September 27, 2018 3 minutes ago, Gavan said: Correct they are pretty much guaranteed to be in the final hence the short odds. Irrelevant of who their opponents are those odds will drift as soon as both teams are known. Bookmakers work to a percentage overound so at the moment 3 teams (barring an amazing Belle Vue comeback) can win the league. One is those is in the final pretty much so they are always going to be much shorter than the other 2. Its basic odds compiling. If Poole would have won by 8.....and Belle Vue v Lynn was closer say a 6 point Belle Vue win , then Poole would be long odds on favourites. If it’s Kings Lynn v Poole final then it will be Kings Lynn as slight favourites but only just Yep. But not in my book Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
waytogo28 2,054 Posted September 28, 2018 12 hours ago, g13webb said: Have faith, I believe we are more than capable of doing the business, whoever we meet in the final.... I'm sure Dale Allitt , sorry Dale Ali. will get the riders dialled in and ride like their lives depend on it.... This year is OUR time...…. I SO much want to believe in that dream too! But the realist in me says that in a Stars V Pirates final the Pirates would edge it. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pointsmeanplayoffs 417 Posted September 28, 2018 15 hours ago, Steve Shovlar said: Kings Lynn are massive favourites with the bookies to win the title as can be seen. Can they cope with all that pressure? You're such a 'poundland mourinho' with your attempts at mindgames LOL 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Steve Shovlar 10,439 Posted September 28, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, pointsmeanplayoffs said: You're such a 'poundland mourinho' with your attempts at mindgames LOL Just saying it as it is. Kings Lynn finished top so the pressure is all on them. No mind games needed. If Poole make the final against all the odds (bottom in July) they will have done a remarkable job. In doing so Pirates will have “the peoples vote” as the team to support. Edited September 28, 2018 by Steve Shovlar 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bagpuss 10,779 Posted September 28, 2018 (edited) I think considering the team they started the season with and how much stronger it was than all the others then getting to the final is the very minimum expectation for Poole fans and the speedway community in general. On the other hand Lynn were predicted to finish bottom so should feel under no pressure. Anything now is a bonus. Edited September 28, 2018 by Bagpuss 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites