TotallyHonestJohn 3,078 Posted November 6, 2018 12 hours ago, stevehone said: apparently they still have to attend or they will be fined Not quite (whats this fixation with fining all the time) In very (very) basic terms the promoters can attend on the Monday (if they want) along with everyone else and hear what BSPA monies they will receive from the shared events, TV revenues etc. (if any) and learn what the outline agenda is with the proposals for next year. They are then asked at the end of the Monday if they intend to run next year, if "No" they go home on the Monday and take no further part in the AGM. If "Yes" they stay until the Wednesday and input into the meeting and debate the proposals, they are then asked again on the Wednesday if they are still prepared to run under the terms that come out of the AGM proposals. If "Yes" well "Bob's ya Uncle" and away you go, if "No" unfortunately its a case of Sell, Ice the Licence or shut down, or there could be a fourth option of a fans collective taking on the franchise if the owners are up for that and prepared to loan whatever assets they hold to the franchise. (But it ain't cheap and there has to be a solid business plan in place) however if no one was to attend from the promotion they would proxy their vote or just advise that they are not running. Many promotions didn't attend last years AGM yet weren't fined. Regards THJ 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
allthegearbutnaeidea 1,732 Posted November 6, 2018 Are they planning on continuing until a buyer comes in or are the Courtney’s going to be the ones to shut down Berwick Speedway after 50 years? I can’t see them doing the latter but I can’t see someone coming forward and buying the club in the next couple of weeks? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fromafar 10,331 Posted November 6, 2018 39 minutes ago, allthegearbutnaeidea said: Are they planning on continuing until a buyer comes in or are the Courtney’s going to be the ones to shut down Berwick Speedway after 50 years? I can’t see them doing the latter but I can’t see someone coming forward and buying the club in the next couple of weeks? My interpretation of their statement is that they are pulling out now.( that could be wrong though). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
StevePark 2,780 Posted November 6, 2018 1 hour ago, Fromafar said: My interpretation of their statement is that they are pulling out now.( that could be wrong though). What they said was (copied and pasted off Facebook/Website): “Of course there is a lot of hard work involved for any new owners and myself (Scott) ,Jamie and the ever loyal Dennis McCleary will be only too happy to spend the winter months helping any new owners settle in and acclimatise to their surroundings." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jrs 3,290 Posted November 6, 2018 36 minutes ago, StevePark said: What they said was (copied and pasted off Facebook/Website): “Of course there is a lot of hard work involved for any new owners and myself (Scott) ,Jamie and the ever loyal Dennis McCleary will be only too happy to spend the winter months helping any new owners settle in and acclimatise to their surroundings." Well that's it settled then Balderdash and ConcessionsCol to take over Berwick speedway as Col needs a job, and then Col won't have to worry about unemployed concessions, he can give himself free entry anyway And all season ticket holders will get a free Bandits watch when they sign up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
balderdash&piffle 720 Posted November 6, 2018 17 minutes ago, jrs said: Well that's it settled then Balderdash and ConcessionsCol to take over Berwick speedway as Col needs a job, and then Col won't have to worry about unemployed concessions, he can give himself free entry anyway And all season ticket holders will get a free Bandits watch when they sign up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fromafar 10,331 Posted November 6, 2018 2 hours ago, StevePark said: What they said was (copied and pasted off Facebook/Website): “Of course there is a lot of hard work involved for any new owners and myself (Scott) ,Jamie and the ever loyal Dennis McCleary will be only too happy to spend the winter months helping any new owners settle in and acclimatise to their surroundings." If there is not any buyers though ,doesn't sound like they will stay on . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
concessionscol 41 Posted November 6, 2018 2 hours ago, balderdash&piffle said: dream on lollol Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
allthegearbutnaeidea 1,732 Posted November 6, 2018 59 minutes ago, Fromafar said: If there is not any buyers though ,doesn't sound like they will stay on . Which is what I was meaning. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fromafar 10,331 Posted November 6, 2018 3 minutes ago, allthegearbutnaeidea said: Which is what I was meaning. That's my interpretation. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tsunami 10,219 Posted November 6, 2018 6 hours ago, TotallyHonestJohn said: Not quite (whats this fixation with fining all the time) In very (very) basic terms the promoters can attend on the Monday (if they want) along with everyone else and hear what BSPA monies they will receive from the shared events, TV revenues etc. (if any) and learn what the outline agenda is with the proposals for next year. They are then asked at the end of the Monday if they intend to run next year, if "No" they go home on the Monday and take no further part in the AGM. If "Yes" they stay until the Wednesday and input into the meeting and debate the proposals, they are then asked again on the Wednesday if they are still prepared to run under the terms that come out of the AGM proposals. If "Yes" well "Bob's ya Uncle" and away you go, if "No" unfortunately its a case of Sell, Ice the Licence or shut down, or there could be a fourth option of a fans collective taking on the franchise if the owners are up for that and prepared to loan whatever assets they hold to the franchise. (But it ain't cheap and there has to be a solid business plan in place) however if no one was to attend from the promotion they would proxy their vote or just advise that they are not running. Many promotions didn't attend last years AGM yet weren't fined. Regards THJ Must have changed recently John as it was always enforced, hence arrangements like flying in Carslake in for Perrin in the early 00's. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TotallyHonestJohn 3,078 Posted November 6, 2018 10 minutes ago, Tsunami said: Must have changed recently John as it was always enforced, hence arrangements like flying in Carslake in for Perrin in the early 00's. Newcastle Worky and two or three others didn't attend the AGM in Tenerife last year and no one was squealing about fines then Dave, They may be deferred with a warning I am not sure but its only worth fining someone who can afford to pay it at the end of the day. Who in Speedway has got any money? Regards THJ 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cityrebel 2,960 Posted November 6, 2018 34 minutes ago, TotallyHonestJohn said: Newcastle Worky and two or three others didn't attend the AGM in Tenerife last year and no one was squealing about fines then Dave, They may be deferred with a warning I am not sure but its only worth fining someone who can afford to pay it at the end of the day. Who in Speedway has got any money? Regards THJ The likes of Chapman and Ford must have a few bob, but the majority live hand to mouth. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mac101 1,187 Posted November 6, 2018 Would they not try run a nl team team to keep the track running ,the likes of Eastbourne and Birmingham seem to have put decent competitive teams together and have kept a decent crowd level and not lost any money from what I hear they would have a decent team with some local riders in Leon and kerion plus the likes of mitch Davy Luke Ruddick Ryan MacDonald Kev Whelan blair Smith that would give locals something to cheer about and with less matches could have a weekend of now and again and with having the training track on their doorstep could bring riders up from there, also there wage bill would be easy quarter less than they pay out now and with local riders the local press might cover it more 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
penchev 342 Posted November 6, 2018 25 minutes ago, mac101 said: Would they not try run a nl team team to keep the track running ,the likes of Eastbourne and Birmingham seem to have put decent competitive teams together and have kept a decent crowd level and not lost any money from what I hear they would have a decent team with some local riders in Leon and kerion plus the likes of mitch Davy Luke Ruddick Ryan MacDonald Kev Whelan blair Smith that would give locals something to cheer about and with less matches could have a weekend of now and again and with having the training track on their doorstep could bring riders up from there, also there wage bill would be easy quarter less than they pay out now and with local riders the local press might cover it more That’s a great shout Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
