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Poole v King’s Lynn Premiership Grand Final 1st leg 08/10/18

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1 minute ago, semion said:

Quite right.  Ellis is just going about his job.  I thought they had closed this crazy loop hole?

Half closed! He has got to be the worst chairman ever, and that's hard to do.

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1 minute ago, foreverblue said:

It isn't up to him or KL , the rule is wrong. He isn't going to turn down extra money.

I'm a Pirates fan and even though Adam guesting for King's Lynn doesn't sit well with me I have to look at it from Adam's point of view and that's he's a young man with bills to pay. Adam doesn't ride for either side full time so he could have said No to both teams regarding guest appearance's but he's accepted both booking's because it's a chance for him to earn some extra money before the 2018 season comes to an end. 

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i'm sure Adam is professional enough to give his all in both meetings, and fair play to him, he's self employed.

a good rider on both tracks, so expecting good points from him in both meetings.

if anything needs blaming it's certainly not Adam, it's the rules

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Maybe the best thing is to declare the play-offs null and avoid and just go with the League finishing order.  

Or is it just about the money !!!! Don’t bother answering that.  Pleassse

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9 minutes ago, lisa-colette said:

Half closed! He has got to be the worst chairman ever, and that's hard to do.

There was me thinking they all voted on the rules:o

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4 hours ago, foreverblue said:

You are not having a dig Steve nor am i, he says i am twisting things, i am not i am just trying to make him see what you meant. 

I'd give up if I were you because it's impossible. :D

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Posted (edited)

It has become a total farce. Won't waste anytime watching either meeting.

Edited by Col

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This is why the governing body should be independent, you can all get on your high horses about Buster all you like BUT push cones to shove he is in a no win situation.

If he didn't use Adam Ellis tomorrow he would not be doing his Kings Lynn position justice.

And by allowing it to happen he is not doing British speedway chairmanship justice.

Until regulations are set independently from those with vested interests then these sorts of circumstances will always crop up.

 

And any Poole fan who thinks that Ford and Middleditch would nt have done exactly the same if roles were reversed, are blinkered beyond belief.

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7 minutes ago, tellboy said:

There was me thinking they all voted on the rules:o

What did he say when he first became chairman...

everything was gonna to be transparent, clear and have intrigity? Nothing about the guest situation shows he has 'strong moral principles' !!  I know it's a rule blah blah blah but it would be good if people put their desperation for a league title aside and made a common sense decision that doesn't pee everyone off!

 

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9 minutes ago, teaboy279 said:

This is why the governing body should be independent, you can all get on your high horses about Buster all you like BUT push cones to shove he is in a no win situation.

If he didn't use Adam Ellis tomorrow he would not be doing his Kings Lynn position justice.

And by allowing it to happen he is not doing British speedway chairmanship justice.

Until regulations are set independently from those with vested interests then these sorts of circumstances will always crop up.

 

And any Poole fan who thinks that Ford and Middleditch would nt have done exactly the same if roles were reversed, are blinkered beyond belief.

I can't say I disagree with any of that but none the less it's devalued the final for me from something I was looking forward too to not being interested now.

A chance for Poole to claim the moral high ground now and cancel Ellis's booking and ride with 6. Everyone would be supporting Poole then!  ......... Wouldn't they? :-/

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1 hour ago, Gavan said:

So can someone please tell me what King’s Lynn have done wrong?

Should they go into the biggest 2 meetings with r/r and hand the league to Poole?? 

The majority of Poole fans having a go at Lynn is laughable all the rule bending and stunts pulled over the years and now King’s Lynn have broke NO rules at all and the Poole fans think that Ellis shouldn’t ride in the best interest of the sport!!! You have to laugh at the double standards of the fools on the south coast. I’m sure if it was the other way round not one Poole fan would moan about the sports credibility.

How many riders are available to Kings Lynn for tomorrow??? Hardly any. So the Kings Lynn promotion should ‘ in the interests of the sport’ not book the best guest available lol

Poole has it easy in the semis against a weakened Somerset and have now seen a gp rider replaced by a third heat leader and they panicking.

I love the mob from the south coast with the party lines all set up now...... we won despite Kings Lynn using Ellis / we lost because Kings Lynn used Ellis....... just delete as appropriate.

Poole fans thinking Kings Lynn should just hand the trophy to them! 

Kurtz injured first .....Poole can get best guest available

Iversen injured........how dare Kings Lynn get the next best guest!!

Come on you Stars 

This comment doesnt surprise me in the slightest sums u up and the bspa chairman !!!!!

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This is an absolutely awful situation for British Speedway to be in.

For the good of both teams and integrity Ellis should ride both meetings for Poole and Morris for King's Lynn. Or both teams run R/R.

The idea that both guests could be on opposite sides 48hrs later is simply totally embarrassing for British Speedway.

This is King's Lynn's first chance of a top flight title in many a year, probably only chance for another 18yrs, and this happens.

It really has dampened and damaged the mood all round for almost every British Speedway fan.

British Speedway has literally died. 

Cannot be excited about this final and to think of the poor sods spending small fortunes to attend these jokes of a meetings.

A very very sad day and hollow victory for either club.

The BSPA President, Chairman and Vice-Chairman should hang their heads in shame and resign.

 

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Surely this can’t devalue Speedway ?   Speedway that runs with 7 sevens in its major League and then after 6 months the 7 teams are whittled down to 4 who then ride 4 money spinning legs to decide who meets in the final shoot out.  Where those loyal fans are ‘rewarded’ by 50% (circa) uplift in admission charges.

So tell me, why are you lot moaning about it.  There are choices in this world 

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4 hours ago, Daniel Smith said:

This is an absolutely awful situation for British Speedway to be in.

For the good of both teams and integrity Ellis should ride both meetings for Poole and Morris for King's Lynn. Or both teams run R/R.

The idea that both guests could be on opposite sides 48hrs later is simply totally embarrassing for British Speedway.

This is King's Lynn's first chance of a top flight title in many a year, probably only chance for another 18yrs, and this happens.

It really has dampened and damaged the mood all round for almost every British Speedway fan.

British Speedway has literally died. 

Cannot be excited about this final and to think of the poor sods spending small fortunes to attend these jokes of a meetings.

A very very sad day and hollow victory for either club.

The BSPA President, Chairman and Vice-Chairman should hang their heads in shame and resign.

 

By attending either Final every fan who does so will 100% endorse the Promoters policies and processes...

Just like they do all season...

Is this situation really much more of a farce than say Brady Kurtz putting in a man of the match performance to help BV knock Swindon out of the very same play offs? Kurtz riding for them because the meeting was arranged (and agreed to by both teams) to be ran on a night when Craig Cook was scheduled to ride elsewhere for Glasgow!

I think there is a certain synergy in what will happen...

A Season long farce has a Season ending farce...

A fitting tribute and ending...

And one several thousand will support, and therefore by being in attendance, provide their very own stamp of approval and blessing to allow more and more of the same..

ad infinitum...

 

 

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12 hours ago, foreverblue said:

We would rather have Brady than Morris thanks you seem to think we have had all the luck.  Iversen isn't even out yet and if he is out they can get a guest who will probably score more than Iversen as he has been poor at Poole this season although like Poole without Brady im sure KL would like to have a full team of their own riders without guests. 

Not the first time we have been let down by Niels this season,  but there are no guests who can replace world quality.  He is irreplaceable when the chips are down.  He virtually guarantees 5-1 in both heat 13 and 15 that usually ensures a winning position.   Because of his low CMA we could never benefit from a guest like Poole have done with Kurtz .  When comparing the losses of each  team, you have to question the necessity of the Play-offs at all .   

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