tyler42 150 Posted October 7, 2018 1 hour ago, Steve Shovlar said: I understand your point but the gp series would be dead in the water if it was full of fast gating Poles. It’s an international competition so the mix must be international. Variety is the spice of life. If Poland had 10 riders worthy of being in the gps, then it is tough on some of them that miss out. It sure is tough if your a Polish rider. Back in the 80 and 82 world long track finals German riders filled the top three spots. So the FIM introduced a two rider policy. In effect stopping the final from being full of German riders. Unfair IMO, but best for the championship i suppose, so a bit like what we have in the GP's today regarding the Polish riders. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chunky 6,086 Posted October 7, 2018 Dudek - obviously... Vaculik - deserves one after a troubled, but not totally unsuccessful year. Pedersen - not great this year, but can still be better than the rest. I am not a fan, but he adds to the GP's. The rest? Zagar - Like Pedersen, better than the rest, and undoubtedly would have qualified had he not missed Krsko. Madsen - still not heard any specifics, but it doesn't appear he is a candidate. Lambert - Perhaps a year early, but has the potential, I feel. Steve 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chunky 6,086 Posted October 7, 2018 48 minutes ago, tyler42 said: It sure is tough if your a Polish rider. Back in the 80 and 82 world long track finals German riders filled the top three spots. So the FIM introduced a two rider policy. In effect stopping the final from being full of German riders. Unfair IMO, but best for the championship i suppose, so a bit like what we have in the GP's today regarding the Polish riders. Same with the Russians in ice-racing... Steve 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
THE DEAN MACHINE 4,735 Posted October 7, 2018 (edited) 25 minutes ago, chunky said: Dudek - obviously... Vaculik - deserves one after a troubled, but not totally unsuccessful year. Pedersen - not great this year, but can still be better than the rest. I am not a fan, but he adds to the GP's. The rest? Zagar - Like Pedersen, better than the rest, and undoubtedly would have qualified had he not missed Krsko. Madsen - still not heard any specifics, but it doesn't appear he is a candidate. Lambert - Perhaps a year early, but has the potential, I feel. Steve It’s between madsen or Pedersen, heard that from the horses mouth tonight and as much as I would like to see lambert does he really deserve one over smektala ? Holder cook and pawlicki are definatly out of running, dudek is one, of all agree then they will be released tomorrow night Edited October 7, 2018 by THE DEAN MACHINE Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chunky 6,086 Posted October 7, 2018 2 hours ago, THE DEAN MACHINE said: It’s between madsen or Pedersen, heard that from the horses mouth tonight and as much as I would like to see lambert does he really deserve one over smektala ? Holder cook and pawlicki are definatly out of running, dudek is one, of all agree then they will be released tomorrow night That's not totally surprising, although - as I said - it did seem a strange situation with Madsen; just didn't know what or who to believe! Steve Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ghostwalker 1,858 Posted October 7, 2018 8 hours ago, ProudtobeaBrummie said: Have i missed something but why do people think vaclav Milik Deserves a wild card last time i looked he was 38th in the Polish League but 13th in the Swedish league (higher then Lambert, Dudek, Vaculik, Smektala.....) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ghostwalker 1,858 Posted October 7, 2018 6 hours ago, Col said: http://www.svemo.se/sv/Grenar/Speedway/Elitserien2018/Rankinglista/ 6 hours ago, ProudtobeaBrummie said: https://sportowefakty.wp.pl/zuzel/elitserien/statystyki/2018 Now i take it not not going to respond to any of the other points because your beat and you cant you must be NP Mother anyway toodle pip off you pop Svemos's average is the official average (without bonus). I'm not sure where SF gets their averages but their's are not official averages. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Panthers89 1,922 Posted October 7, 2018 Dudek, Nicki P, Vaculik then I think you’ll have either Fricke/Lambert for the last place Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ray c 2,299 Posted October 7, 2018 vaculik dudek madsen cook or lambert need two brits in the gps Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
phillipsr 2,053 Posted October 7, 2018 31 minutes ago, ray c said: vaculik dudek madsen cook or lambert need two brits in the gps Why?? We only need two if they can compete Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2ndbendbeerhut 1,781 Posted October 7, 2018 From the GP Challenge Kolodziej replaces Pawlicki Iversen replaces Cook Lindback replaces Holder That's leaves 4 wild cards to replace Dudek Pedersen Vaculik Zager Think they could all stay, maybe Zager could be out, GP in Krsko would mean he gets that meeting Wildcard. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ray c 2,299 Posted October 7, 2018 (edited) 32 minutes ago, phillipsr said: Why?? We only need two if they can compete Only said two woffinden all ready in cook or Lambert just my opinion Edited October 7, 2018 by ray c Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Robbie B 262 Posted October 7, 2018 Dudek, Madsen, Vaculik and Zagar 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
James Carter 62 Posted October 7, 2018 For me it would be Dudek Vaculik Pedersen Madsen Whilst Poland have great strength in depth I don't think there is a stand out Pole who is missing out due to nationality that would add a great deal. Maybe in a years time Drabik or Smektela will be too good not to get a pick. Hampel can consider himself a bit unlucky if he's overlooked (in fact his whole career has been pretty unlucky) but I don't see him bringing that much to SGP. KK would be the other pole who again might have a case but I don't see him troubling the top 8 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
phillipsr 2,053 Posted October 7, 2018 1 hour ago, ray c said: Only said two woffinden all ready in cook or Lambert just my opinion Im not questioning your opinion id like Lambert in i was asking why we NEED two?? We dont IMO we need the best 16 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
