Steve Shovlar 10,424 Posted October 11, 2018 1 minute ago, fliss44 said: Sorry you are incorrect I have little interest in speedway since losing Coventry (apart from the GP's) Poole were our rivals and I had a healthy bias towards my home team then. If I were to follow a team at all it would be Leicester as it's closest to me. Methinks that you still wear rose tinted glasses along with your mate Steve. I watched both legs on TV and the decisions by the ref. against King's Lynn were dreadful (perhaps the ref. is a little richer now) As for your track -- don't even get me started -- slick and boring. However if it rocks your boat enjoy!!! And what about the long list of ref calls that favoured Lynn last night? 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ColinMills 1,728 Posted October 11, 2018 3 minutes ago, fliss44 said: Sorry you are incorrect I have little interest in speedway since losing Coventry (apart from the GP's) Poole were our rivals and I had a healthy bias towards my home team then. If I were to follow a team at all it would be Leicester as it's closest to me. Methinks that you still wear rose tinted glasses along with your mate Steve. I watched both legs on TV and the decisions by the ref. against King's Lynn were dreadful (perhaps the ref. is a little richer now) As for your track -- don't even get me started -- slick and boring. However if it rocks your boat enjoy!!! Coventry was superb venue, such a shame its missing, just watching Olsen farewell on youtube shows what speedway is missing..should never of taken british final away either, Eastbourne was disastrous british final venue...cant argue much about NSS though 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cinderfella 865 Posted October 11, 2018 29 minutes ago, Daniel Smith said: I fully understand where you are coming from with regards NKI. He stood there in front of the camera last night and said he was perfectly fine. He felt rough on Monday but perfectly fine today and will be available for the KO Cup. As regards NKI's injury, am i not right in thinking he was hospitalised with a head injury which would mean the concussion protocol would come into play and he has to sit out for a specific number of days. He maybe said he was fine and appeared so but medical opinion may have differed and that has to be the over- ruling factor. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
foreverblue 6,055 Posted October 11, 2018 4 minutes ago, Steve Shovlar said: And what about the long list of ref calls that favoured Lynn last night? Ah but Steve the KIngs Lynn fan behind me said it wasn't first bend bunching in heat 3 as it was after the first bend and the Poole rider should have got excluded!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iainb 4,863 Posted October 11, 2018 7 minutes ago, cinderfella said: As regards NKI's injury, am i not right in thinking he was hospitalised with a head injury which would mean the concussion protocol would come into play and he has to sit out for a specific number of days. He maybe said he was fine and appeared so but medical opinion may have differed and that has to be the over- ruling factor. I don't know that concussion has been mentioned by anyone until now... If it was concussion, fair enough... The only thing reported was head injury Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cinderfella 865 Posted October 11, 2018 1 minute ago, iainb said: I don't know that concussion has been mentioned by anyone until now... If it was concussion, fair enough... The only thing reported was head injury As someone with a medical background I know if a HIA is carried out the possibility of a delayed concussion must be considered and the proper actions taken. Even if he appeared to escaped any brain injury on that occasion the possibility of another serious trauma shortly after has to be considered. Rider's safety is paramount and has to be the first consideration. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hyabb17 1,077 Posted October 11, 2018 38 minutes ago, Steve Shovlar said: Yes I correct that in my post but wasn’t quick enough! just watching it now and when Woryna fell there was no way he did it on purpose or could have got up from that. The ref was completely wrong. The rules is there for a team on a 5-1 and one of the riders at the back lays it down to get a rerun. That wasn’t the situation last night. No wonder Nicolai was aggrieved. Ref massively favouring Kings Lynn in every decision. I'm sorry but Woryna bailed out & stayed down. I think the ref got that one right. Woryna made a mistake coming out of bend 3. Tried to lean on Riss who was faster & came inside Woryna who then pooped himself & laid it down. Could have got up as wasn't injured. That's from a neutral perspective. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Steve Shovlar 10,424 Posted October 11, 2018 1 minute ago, hyabb17 said: I'm sorry but Woryna bailed out & stayed down. I think the ref got that one right. Woryna made a mistake coming out of bend 3. Tried to lean on Riss who was faster & came inside Woryna who then pooped himself & laid it down. Could have got up as wasn't injured. That's from a neutral perspective. He didn’t “poop himself” He was fairly ridden wide by Riss and lost control. A world of difference than be tailed off then just slide off to get a rerun. That was the reason the rule was brought in. Kasper hit the fence fairly hard and I doubt any rider would have got up and cleared the track in about 10 seconds. Ref abused the rule. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
paulboy 169 Posted October 11, 2018 1 minute ago, Steve Shovlar said: He didn’t “poop himself” He was fairly ridden wide by Riss and lost control. A world of difference than be tailed off then just slide off to get a rerun. That was the reason the rule was brought in. Kasper hit the fence fairly hard and I doubt any rider would have got up and cleared the track in about 10 seconds. Ref abused the rule. Yet when Toft had his leg taken away he "bailed out"? 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hyabb17 1,077 Posted October 11, 2018 Just now, Steve Shovlar said: He didn’t “poop himself” He was fairly ridden wide by Riss and lost control. A world of difference than be tailed off then just slide off to get a rerun. That was the reason the rule was brought in. Kasper hit the fence fairly hard and I doubt any rider would have got up and cleared the track in about 10 seconds. Ref abused the rule. Of course he did, could have backed off & not try to ''lean'' on Riss. He caused his own downfall. Whether Klindt should have gone off 15 is another matter. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hyabb17 1,077 Posted October 11, 2018 1 minute ago, paulboy said: Yet when Toft had his leg taken away he "bailed out"? Exactly. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv 10,683 Posted October 11, 2018 The rule re starting off 15m in a re run mentions nothing about it being in place just for situations where a rider stays down It states it is at the sole discretion of the ref where riders of one team are in 3rd and 4th at the time of the stoppage 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pointsmeanplayoffs 417 Posted October 11, 2018 4 minutes ago, Steve Shovlar said: He didn’t “poop himself” He was fairly ridden wide by Riss and lost control. A world of difference than be tailed off then just slide off to get a rerun. That was the reason the rule was brought in. Kasper hit the fence fairly hard and I doubt any rider would have got up and cleared the track in about 10 seconds. Ref abused the rule. I think the way he looked up, saw that the state of the race, and then stayed down was the reason the ref put Klindt off 15M. I didn't know the rule existed to be honest, think it worked well in that situation. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KLFAN 11 Posted October 11, 2018 At the end of the day the record books will show Poole as 2018 SGB Champions. However so we do not have this situation where the best team over the season does not ultimately become Champions perhaps some allowance should be made for topping the league (apart from pick of opponents and choice of home or away leg first). Ultimately King's Lynn finished 9 points ahead of Poole in the table so perhaps KL should have been given a 9 point start for the final. Opinions? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hyabb17 1,077 Posted October 11, 2018 2 minutes ago, KLFAN said: At the end of the day the record books will show Poole as 2018 SGB Champions. However so we do not have this situation where the best team over the season does not ultimately become Champions perhaps some allowance should be made for topping the league (apart from pick of opponents and choice of home or away leg first). Ultimately King's Lynn finished 9 points ahead of Poole in the table so perhaps KL should have been given a 9 point start for the final. Opinions? I think they do (or did) that in the Danish final, top start with so many points & so on. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites