tellboy 3,658 Posted October 19, 2018 7 hours ago, Daniel Smith said: If you want a team to win the league by any means possible, in 2018 King's Lynn take that honour. Poole kept their noses pretty clean in 2018 and I think that's why Middleditch put this down to one of his greatest league title wins. There's nothing that can be pointed at them. King's Lynn can be thanked for instigating the use of Morris in the 2nd leg over the points limit. Poole won the title in 2018 fair and square, they should be congratulated. King's Lynn proved in the KO Cup just how weak they are in the middle order and reserve. Injuries were not an excuse for Poole winning, again proven by their KO Cup final performances. If a reserve is used as an excuse it just proves how poor the team is as a whole. MPT being missing isn't the reason King's Lynn ended up without a trophy. Middle order to weak, 2nd reserve to weak, and the management clueless. Can't take you seriously anymore with your anti King's Lynn agenda. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bald Bloke 3,281 Posted October 19, 2018 7 hours ago, Daniel Smith said: If you want a team to win the league by any means possible, in 2018 King's Lynn take that honour. Poole kept their noses pretty clean in 2018 and I think that's why Middleditch put this down to one of his greatest league title wins. There's nothing that can be pointed at them. King's Lynn can be thanked for instigating the use of Morris in the 2nd leg over the points limit. Poole won the title in 2018 fair and square, they should be congratulated. King's Lynn proved in the KO Cup just how weak they are in the middle order and reserve. Injuries were not an excuse for Poole winning, again proven by their KO Cup final performances. If a reserve is used as an excuse it just proves how poor the team is as a whole. MPT being missing isn't the reason King's Lynn ended up without a trophy. Middle order to weak, 2nd reserve to weak, and the management clueless. Do you want a top up for that glass of yours that is waayyy less than half empty Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Starman2006 2,353 Posted October 19, 2018 5 minutes ago, Bald Bloke said: Do you want a top up for that glass of yours that is waayyy less than half empty He's probably telling the truth mate. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bald Bloke 3,281 Posted October 19, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, Starman2006 said: He's probably telling the truth mate. Even Poole fans surely would agree that 3 points, 2 points and 2 points from an inform reserve hit Lynn big time.. And 2 of the 3 where at home Edited October 19, 2018 by Bald Bloke Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Starman2006 2,353 Posted October 19, 2018 31 minutes ago, Bald Bloke said: Even Poole fans surely would agree that 3 points, 2 points and 2 points from an inform reserve hit Lynn big time.. And 2 of the 3 where at home Have to agree, reserves win meetings. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bald Bloke 3,281 Posted October 19, 2018 3 minutes ago, Starman2006 said: Have to agree, reserves win meetings. Wooo, you sure Starry. Might create a bit of mutinity on the Pirate ship Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Trackrat 440 Posted October 19, 2018 On 10/18/2018 at 11:44 PM, Gemini said: Not many. Even Steve Shovlar couldn't bring himself to do the usual match report and disappeared. In fact he quit the forum in a strop, but he denies it. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
g13webb 4,254 Posted October 20, 2018 It was so obvious to anyone with an ounce of common sense, our season finished the instant Jakobsen took MPT out to which resulted in a broken wrist. The effect on the Lynn team was massive. MPT was irreplaceable.... As good as Robert has performed this year, it was not until we signed Erik Riss did the team start to perform. The MAIN reason for this is that in MPT we had a quality rider at reserve, someone who could cover extra rides when his team-mates faltered. Eliminating our strongest link was catastrophic , and finding a replacement has proved impossible.... Because of the monumental effect this instance had on the proceedings I feel it is wrong that a rider can commit an offence of this nature and walk away scot free, regardless of intent or accidental . In football and other sports the offending person can be penalised, and be banned for future matches. Probably, if there was a reprimand of this nature, some riders would be more aware of the consequences of wayward riding... NB this is not a dig at Poole or Jakobsen, but I think riders should shoulder some responsibility when incidents like this happens.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lisa-colette 6,016 Posted October 20, 2018 Unbelievable! You want someone banned for an accident, not like he just completely rode into him. From the side and back angle it looks 50/50. What if MPT didn't get injured? Would you still want Jakobsen banned? Or is it purely based on if someone picks up an injury, not actually the incident? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Steve Shovlar 10,439 Posted October 20, 2018 1 hour ago, g13webb said: It was so obvious to anyone with an ounce of common sense, our season finished the instant Jakobsen took MPT out to which resulted in a broken wrist. The effect on the Lynn team was massive. MPT was irreplaceable.... As good as Robert has performed this year, it was not until we signed Erik Riss did the team start to perform. The MAIN reason for this is that in MPT we had a quality rider at reserve, someone who could cover extra rides when his team-mates faltered. Eliminating our strongest link was catastrophic , and finding a replacement has proved impossible.... Because of the monumental effect this instance had on the proceedings I feel it is wrong that a rider can commit an offence of this nature and walk away scot free, regardless of intent or accidental . In football and other sports the offending person can be penalised, and be banned for future matches. Probably, if there was a reprimand of this nature, some riders would be more aware of the consequences of wayward riding... NB this is not a dig at Poole or Jakobsen, but I think riders should shoulder some responsibility when incidents like this happens.... Wow I have heard it all now! A rider attempting to make a perfectly legal pass might have to have second thoughts, in a split second in a playoff final, incase the rider he is passing might fall off. This isn’t tiddly winks. MPT left a big gap and Jakobsen did what any other rider would have done. MPT was at fault for leaving the gap. Had he stayed on the inside Jakobsen would have been blocked. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
foreverblue 6,079 Posted October 20, 2018 1 hour ago, g13webb said: It was so obvious to anyone with an ounce of common sense, our season finished the instant Jakobsen took MPT out to which resulted in a broken wrist. The effect on the Lynn team was massive. MPT was irreplaceable.... As good as Robert has performed this year, it was not until we signed Erik Riss did the team start to perform. The MAIN reason for this is that in MPT we had a quality rider at reserve, someone who could cover extra rides when his team-mates faltered. Eliminating our strongest link was catastrophic , and finding a replacement has proved impossible.... Because of the monumental effect this instance had on the proceedings I feel it is wrong that a rider can commit an offence of this nature and walk away scot free, regardless of intent or accidental . In football and other sports the offending person can be penalised, and be banned for future matches. Probably, if there was a reprimand of this nature, some riders would be more aware of the consequences of wayward riding... NB this is not a dig at Poole or Jakobsen, but I think riders should shoulder some responsibility when incidents like this happens.... That is ridiculous and that is not what happens in football a player doesn't get banned for accidental challenges it has to be deemed intentional and dangerous. Accidents like the MPT one happen all the time in speedway, if riders got penalised for it there would be even less passing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Daniel Smith 5,645 Posted October 20, 2018 3 hours ago, g13webb said: It was so obvious to anyone with an ounce of common sense, our season finished the instant Jakobsen took MPT out to which resulted in a broken wrist. The effect on the Lynn team was massive. MPT was irreplaceable.... As good as Robert has performed this year, it was not until we signed Erik Riss did the team start to perform. The MAIN reason for this is that in MPT we had a quality rider at reserve, someone who could cover extra rides when his team-mates faltered. Eliminating our strongest link was catastrophic , and finding a replacement has proved impossible.... Because of the monumental effect this instance had on the proceedings I feel it is wrong that a rider can commit an offence of this nature and walk away scot free, regardless of intent or accidental . In football and other sports the offending person can be penalised, and be banned for future matches. Probably, if there was a reprimand of this nature, some riders would be more aware of the consequences of wayward riding... NB this is not a dig at Poole or Jakobsen, but I think riders should shoulder some responsibility when incidents like this happens.... Speedway lacks passing as it is, throw rider's out for unintentional injuries will just encourage 15 heats of gating and just ride in the middle of the track. It was purely a racing incident and nothing else. If any finger are to be pointed, it should be the management for inadequate guests, not the opposition. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
noggin 1,388 Posted October 20, 2018 Most would agree that losing MPT was bad luck, but to suggest Jakobsen should be banned is just silly, the League is being diluted every year, let's not sanitize it aswell. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
clambo71 136 Posted October 20, 2018 7 hours ago, lisa-colette said: Unbelievable! You want someone banned for an accident, not like he just completely rode into him. From the side and back angle it looks 50/50. What if MPT didn't get injured? Would you still want Jakobsen banned? Or is it purely based on if someone picks up an injury, not actually the incident? While I dont want riders banned for being involved in accidents with other riders, most posters saying Jacobson was innocent have disregarded Kelvin Tatums statement at the time saying MPT had already set his line into the bend when Jacobson came under him therefor he did ride into him and should have been excluded. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Steve0 5,517 Posted October 20, 2018 So let’s assume the situation where Kings Lynn fielded an ineligible rider in one leg of the final and Kings Lynn went onto win by less than the points scored by the ineligible rider on aggregate. Do you think the likes of SS, Starman and Lisa C would just accept it and congratulate the “better” team? I think not - but anyone who thinks that of Poole is a hater, chomping on sour grapes or has an agenda! Double standards as always! 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
