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Is This The Worse Team Ever To Win The League?

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3 hours ago, cityrebel said:

I remember watching them demolish poole 64 - 26 at wimborne road. They certainly were a great team.

I was there for that as well! Didn't they get Gollob in on a 6 point average? 

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20 minutes ago, lisa-colette said:

I was there for that as well! Didn't they get Gollob in on a 6 point average? 

I can't remember, it seems like a lifetime ago.

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22 minutes ago, lisa-colette said:

I was there for that as well! Didn't they get Gollob in on a 6 point average? 

7.5 - which at the time was the entry average for new GP standard riders

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1 hour ago, Steve0 said:

Your pub analogy is fundamentally flawed because one pub does not depend on the existence or otherwise of another. - whereas a speedway club does depend on other clubs.  No point in being well supported if you have no one to race against.  Also, a lot of people tend to pick and choose meetings they attend depending on who they are racing against and what competition it is for e.g. the KO Cup fails to attract the same level of support as league racing and some people do not bother going to see some of the weaker teams either.  The business model for speedway is a precarious one in the current climate which is why there won’t be a big queue of interested parties IMHO.

Correct...

No point in buying into a business where all the businesses around you are closing down..

Retail businesses often close due to foot fall dropping due to other outlets adjacent going bust...

Put Simply, Team Speedway needs teams (and a wide variety to maintain interest)...

The Sport desperately needs a clear direction and an injection of radical ideas...

With I would suggest a collective 'Brand Speedway' marketing plan...

Instead of individually paying thousands out each week to riders who put hardly a bottom on a seat, pay a marketing company to achieve exactly that..

Work together and not against each other...

It might already be too late but has to be worth a go..

 

 

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22 hours ago, jrs said:

Ford probably thinks it's time to get out whilst the business still has some value left in it.

And I doubt he wants to stay around and try to help speedway in the UK recover from the mess that he has contributed to in a big way this century.

So you are pretty much saying that the current state of British speedway is mainly Matt Ford's fault ? Utterly utterly staggering, the absolute drivel that all you poole haters spout on this site is mind blowing! What a sorry, sad bunch you all are.  If there were a few more Matt Ford's about British speedway would not be in it's current state, FACT !  As some posters say on here, the product is getting watered down every year, something Matt Ford has been opposed to for many seasons, and if he  is still around next season, trust me, Poole will again be the team to beat because he wants to provide his customers with a winning team, it's called SPORT!!!  Maybe Poole did get a little lucky this year, but guess what, the harder you try the luckier you get !!!!

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19 hours ago, Grachan said:

When you look at Cradley Heath 1983, I don't think there will ever be a team to top that. Just the sheer quality in that side - not even from 1-7 but they had Simon Cross at no 8 instead.

Four riders with averages over 9. Two riders over 8. And at number 7, with an average over 7, was World Champ to be, Jan O. Pedersen.

Just a remarkable line-up.

And the other reserve (Peter ravn) made that year's world final as reserve. Including Ravn they had 4 world finalists that year, the others would ride in a world final within the next two seasons. Aces still beat them in the premiership though!

By far the best team I've seen, built I believe to a 50pt limit.

A better side imo than the unbeaten Oxford team of 86 that was built to 45 with a compulsory junior. 

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20 minutes ago, waiheke1 said:

And the other reserve (Peter ravn) made that year's world final as reserve. Including Ravn they had 4 world finalists that year, the others would ride in a world final within the next two seasons. Aces still beat them in the premiership though!

By far the best team I've seen, built I believe to a 50pt limit.

A better side imo than the unbeaten Oxford team of 86 that was built to 45 with a compulsory junior. 

Did Alan Grahame ever make a World Final?

I think the points limit was 48 at that time, but sure that, in itself, would make them a better side than the Oxford side with a compulsory junior. It depends if you compare them to others in the same year or as an individual side I guess.

The 1980s points limits certainly led to dominant sides. Coventry had a couple too where they were easy league winners. I guess that's one reason the limits kept coming down as other sides tried to compete.

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Alan Grahame was reserve in 84 and scored 5 pts from 2 rides.

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8 hours ago, Grachan said:

Did Alan Grahame ever make a World Final?

I think the points limit was 48 at that time, but sure that, in itself, would make them a better side than the Oxford side with a compulsory junior. It depends if you compare them to others in the same year or as an individual side I guess.

The 1980s points limits certainly led to dominant sides. Coventry had a couple too where they were easy league winners. I guess that's one reason the limits kept coming down as other sides tried to compete.

Was definitely higher than 48 limit in 83. It may have cone down to 48 in 1984. It may even have been 51in 83.

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