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52 minutes ago, RS50 said:

Only a money spinner for the teams that make the play offs. We want ALL teams back next year.

Absolutely, whilst hopefully the playoff teams make some money, the non playoff teams will not lose money because they are not in the playoffs, so its still a win situation.

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No doubting the team that top the league after completing the season should be crowned champions as they have earned the right. As a point of interest what actually do they recieve from doing so. Is there a cash incentive for winning the title or does it bring in any more sponsorship or any more supporters the following season, I think not as evidence from crowds dwindling & riders calling it a day as no money is coming back into the sport. It's good to see training schools bringing on new riders & clearly they are making it pay through training fees, but what happens when these riders break through only to find they will have no competitive speedway to take part in. Sorry to say speedway is on a downward spiral and unless a complete 're think for the way ahead & an independent control board put in place can this sport get there.

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1 hour ago, dave1075 said:

No doubting the team that top the league after completing the season should be crowned champions as they have earned the right. As a point of interest what actually do they recieve from doing so. Is there a cash incentive for winning the title or does it bring in any more sponsorship or any more supporters the following season, I think not as evidence from crowds dwindling & riders calling it a day as no money is coming back into the sport. It's good to see training schools bringing on new riders & clearly they are making it pay through training fees, but what happens when these riders break through only to find they will have no competitive speedway to take part in. Sorry to say speedway is on a down wood spiral and unless a complete 're think for the way ahead & an independent control board put in place can this sport get there.

As clubs are generally forced to break up a title winning squad that's certainly no reward for winning the title!

And what is a wood spiral?

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2 hours ago, iainb said:

As clubs are generally forced to break up a title winning squad that's certainly no reward for winning the title!

And what is a wood spiral?

Should have said downward & not down wood, ( bloody prodictive text )

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Speedway playoffs will always be unsatisfactory in so far as a team, having been consistent and successful for most of the season, and finish at top of the league table, can have it all taken from them through injuries to riders occurring during the latter part of the season and the playoffs themselves.

In other sports where playoffs are used to determine the champions, clubs can rest key players from later league matches if they have sufficient margin which allows that. With Speedway clubs having no facility for that, and additionally with riders having commitments with other teams and risk of losing their services, playoffs for Speedway leagues is a very unsatisfactory and imperfect way to decide the champions. They cause too many injustices and anomalies.

But the playoff advocates will say ah yes, that may be so, but look at the attendance money they generate, look at the crowds the playoff pull in. But to that I would say that playoffs also serve to reduce attendances at regular season matches, and cause the season to be still running when really it shouldn't, when availability of replacement riders becomes almost impossible, at times rendering these matches farcical and not in the sport's best interests. 

The development league should absolutely not use playoffs to decide it's champions. 

The second tier could perhaps justify one playoff match, a grand final between the two top finishers.  The first tier, purely on a financial and operational justification, could justify more extensive playoffs with the league running to strict timings due to the smaller size.

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Another thing is you could spend all season battering teams then encounter major problems at the end, win nothing but still have to decimate the side for the next season, ,meanwhile a team that scrapes 4th place and wins it, can go again the following season with pretty much the same side with just a minimal change to a reserve.

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