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On 7 November 2018 at 9:36 AM, Skidder1 said:

Any club at Championship level that runs at weekends would have to avoid signing any rider who competes in any of the Polish divisions.  By definition any of the 'richer' clubs riding Mon/Weds can afford to sign stronger teams which will make the one league concept uncompetitive for some. Clubs that lose regularly also lose fans

If it is one league at Championship level the priority is on riders riding in the top leagues in Sweden and Poland and the only other ones are riders riding in lower levels abroad that come from that country. Example if Rybnik were riding on a Friday in a rearranged meeting and Poole were away that night, Woryna would ride at Rybnik being Polish. Ostrow in the same circumstances would have to do without Klindt as the fixture here was arranged first. If arranged in Poland first, it's down to an agreement that has to be sorted between leagues. 

 

Most riders however ever in a one league here at a Championship level don't ride in top leagues and those that do could be sorted to try and avoid clashes. It is unlikely any track operating on a Thursday will sign a Swedish rider or rider with a contract in Sweden in the top league and the same for any club that operates on Friday or Saturday or Sunday signing a rider involved in Poland, especially the top level

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48 minutes ago, INCOGNITO said:

If it is one league at Championship level the priority is on riders riding in the top leagues in Sweden and Poland and the only other ones are riders riding in lower levels abroad that come from that country. Example if Rybnik were riding on a Friday in a rearranged meeting and Poole were away that night, Woryna would ride at Rybnik being Polish. Ostrow in the same circumstances would have to do without Klindt as the fixture here was arranged first. If arranged in Poland first, it's down to an agreement that has to be sorted between leagues. 

 

Most riders however ever in a one league here at a Championship level don't ride in top leagues and those that do could be sorted to try and avoid clashes. It is unlikely any track operating on a Thursday will sign a Swedish rider or rider with a contract in Sweden in the top league and the same for any club that operates on Friday or Saturday or Sunday signing a rider involved in Poland, especially the top level

Which may help the home team but do not forget that each visiting team will visit the thursday to Sunday running clubs so will need guests etc.

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14 hours ago, A ORLOV said:

Which may help the home team but do not forget that each visiting team will visit the thursday to Sunday running clubs so will need guests etc.

No rider that rides in Poland would be riding for a Sunday club and if the visitors like Fricke at Belle Vue for example arrange their fixture on a Sunday where Max is available. 

 

Fixture clashes he's will be few and far between if done correctly

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You seem to also be forgetting the mandatory practice days that any Polish-contracted riders have to attend!

Lets not forget, riders will in the main give priority to where the money is.

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So the farce of a team riding home on a weekend vs rr and guests. It’s a farce if that happens and fixed race nights solved that to a large extent. Mon/wed/thu or a lower level should be the only options. If not we get the ridiculous situation that was 2017. Record guest numbers.

this is the flaw of 1 league. Bigger teams signing big riders but not being able to use them due to continental clashes. We will have no rights on overseas riders now anyway. If a foreign rider is down to ride for a club on their frn then there isn’t any way around it. 

I hope belle vue persivere and find a way on the frn as it would be a shame for them to drop down.

 

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1 hour ago, INCOGNITO said:

No rider that rides in Poland would be riding for a Sunday club and if the visitors like Fricke at Belle Vue for example arrange their fixture on a Sunday where Max is available. 

 

Fixture clashes he's will be few and far between if done correctly

But if more than one club rode on a Sunday or Saturday then the visiting club may not be able to dictate when all of its away meetings at those clubs are run, especially if Poland or Sweden suddenly arranged extra practice on a Sunday or Sat when they were not scheduled to ride.  Unfortunately Poland rues speedway and if they say jump the riders jump.

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On 10/30/2018 at 1:26 PM, Phil The Ace said:

Or if 42.50

 

Fricke

Bewley

Bjerre

Lidsey

Zagar

Bickley

Kemp

belle vue in the championship are they ?  

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3 hours ago, jenga said:

belle vue in the championship are they ?  

Yeah. That's where Kenny bjerre, zagar and fricke want to ride. 

 

Silly boy

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43 minutes ago, Phil The Ace said:

Yeah. That's where Kenny bjerre, zagar and fricke want to ride. 

 

Silly boy

lets face it, thats where the majority of premiership riders , ride . 

kemp will be in the pl with ippo anyhow !

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42 minutes ago, jenga said:

lets face it, thats where the majority of premiership riders , ride . 

kemp will be in the pl with ippo anyhow !

Yes he will. At the time of the post though Ipswich wasn't coming up. It's quite clear now though that Ipswich are up with Peterborough, 

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Just now, Phil The Ace said:

Yes he will. At the time of the post though Ipswich wasn't coming up. It's quite clear now though that Ipswich are up with Peterborough, 

Why's it clear that Peterborough and Ipswich are going Premiership? 

The stadium use at the showground is unreliable. The stadium owners cancel fixtures when someone else wants to use the grounds and willing to pay substantially more than the Speedway. 

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54 minutes ago, jenga said:

lets face it, thats where the majority of premiership riders , ride . 

kemp will be in the pl with ippo anyhow !

As a supporter of a championship club (fingers crossed for your club)I would not harp on about Prem class riders riding in the champ league.They are only there for the extra money.Before this crazy doubleing up most of them would have moved up to the prem league already,and if they do stop it next year most of them will choose to ride in the prem league, for most clubs better wages tougher races for their improvment etc.Which would leave the champ league short of most of its major talent and I think that would inc Bewley and Klindt.

The way it should be really and the way it was for many years before the dreaded doubling up which has damaged the sport big time.

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1 minute ago, B.V 72 said:

As a supporter of a championship club (fingers crossed for your club)I would not harp on about Prem class riders riding in the champ league.They are only there for the extra money.Before this crazy doubleing up most of them would have moved up to the prem league already,and if they do stop it next year most of them will choose to ride in the prem league for most clubs better wages tougher races for their improvment etc.Which would leave the champ league short of most of its major talent and I think that would inc Bewley and Klindt.

The way it should be really and they way it was for many years before the dreaded doubling up which has damaged the sport big time.

I've said few times, the Championship should just be an extension of the National League, progress for our youth. Foreign rider's allowed but they must not be included in any top leagues i.e. Premiership, Ekstraliga, Liga 1, Metal League, Elitserien or Bundesliga.

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1 hour ago, Daniel Smith said:

I've said few times, the Championship should just be an extension of the National League, progress for our youth. Foreign rider's allowed but they must not be included in any top leagues i.e. Premiership, Ekstraliga, Liga 1, Metal League, Elitserien or Bundesliga.

Good idea in theory  :t:

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