Glasgow 2019 Onwards

[waytogo28 2,054]

8 hours ago, old bob at herne bay said:

Meanwhile Buster is buying up speedway clubs. He must be mad.

Not mad, delusional that things will get better re crowds and the attractiveness of speedway racing in the UK.

[TotallyHonestJohn 3,078]

On 11/23/2018 at 5:39 PM, thetruthhonesty said:

Point one - unfair contract terms and a lack of good faith on behalf of the trader (i.e. the club) may mean that the contract is not legally binding - so shall we say unfair payment terms, or lacking of would constitute a non-legally binding contract. You worked for and may work for whomever...but last time I looked, we were discussing Speedway, not Bob the Builder. 

Good for you, you must speak to a lot of riders then...whomever you are. So you insinuate every rider it seems...there is ambiguity within your statement. However, yes it is standard practice that the rider shall and can approach the BSPA to get involved should there be outstanding payments; and why a club would want to hold payments owing unduly is quite really beyond me. I know of one club whom done this. Absolute disgusting behavior. If there are not specific payment dates in the contract then the company default payment terms would take effect, such terms would be set out in the terms of business. Wonder if your club presents this to the riders...Again, we're not talking Bob the Builder, and whom pays you for whatever under whatever terms are of no interest to me. The point I make is of a factual one - riders would not wish to ride for a club whom have appear to have track record of riders not being paid upon invoicing. More so when a payment date was confirmed (one of many!) yet no sign of cleared funds, nothing but false promises.

Perhaps you should understand the facts first, before issuing false public statements regarding your club/club that you are or may be affiliated to.

Rather than jumping on the keyboard bandit train; people should be focusing more on what they can achieve through offering assistance to their clubs, something as simple as posting on social media rather than jumping to conclusions on a masked identify forum.

 

Ærligt talt

Vil du virkelig gå ned denne rute med mig; du klovn, jeg har fyrre år i at håndtere aftaleret og det samme i Employment Law; og tredive år i europæisk aftaleret så du kan tage dit "Bar Room Solicitors Certificate" og gå tørre din backside med det; fordi det er alt det er værd. Alt du behøver at vide er dette

1. Kontraktbrud. En aftale blev indgået og brudt. Det følger heraf, at skader kunne tilskrives. Hvis kontrakten blev underskrevet eller ej. Kontrakten var "Aftalt" og "Afsluttet"

2. Inducereren (den eller de personer, der fremmer kontraktbrud). At indgyde en anden til at bryde en kontrakt er en tort i engelsk lov. Du skal blot sige det er ulovligt og en lovovertrædelse:

Loven er helt klar over det, "Ingen tvetydighed", "Intet vildledende" og "Helt klart", under engelsk lov. Ønsker du at debattere disse punkter yderligere, da jeg er meget glad for at uddanne dig yderligere, men som en person har fornuftigt foreslået, kan vi tage denne samtale så vidt du ønsker gennem processen "Private Messaging"

Desuden må du ikke nævne, hvad du mener, at BSPA'en gør som det er indlysende, du har ingen anelse; og har gjort din egen fortolkning; og du tager fuldstændig vrøvl; som sædvanligt…

Absolut ulækkert adfærd, godt, der er en erklæring, jeg har hørt et par gange før; og jeg vil fortælle dig, hvad der ellers udgør en modbydelig opførsel; "Skatte unddragelse"; hvis du betaler skat i det land du er ansat i; med hensyn til Den Europæiske Union eller i Det Forenede Kongerige eller dit hjemland: Virksomheden kan ikke modtage betalingsbetingelser; uanset om der er specifikke betalingsdatoer i kontrakten. Hvis en virksomhed faktureres korrekt, skal de betale fakturaen eller entreprenøren anvender sagen gennem domstolene for at få deres forfaldne betalinger. Men hvis du ikke har en bankkonto i dette land, og du ikke vil have dig løn indbetalt til dit hjemland bankkonto hvor forlader medarbejderen eller underleverandøren det med hensyn til tilbagebetaling af penge skyldige? Hvordan betaler arbejdsgiveren fakturaen?

Derfor er det punkt du laver, hvor du hedder "Faktisk". "Ryttere ville ikke ønske at køre for en klub, der synes at have track record for ryttere, der ikke bliver betalt ved fakturering." Det er mærkeligt, fordi på lørdag aften og helt op indtil søndag morgen din chap skulle ride for klubben, der ikke tilsyneladende betaler, og hvordan betaler de dem der

1. Producerer ikke en faktura, og

2. Har ikke en engelsk bankkonto, og

3. Ønsker det på denne måde

Så for at bruge din sætning; "Måske skal du først forstå fakta"; af hvad du kan og ikke kan gøre, både juridisk og moralsk; før udstedelse af falske offentlige erklæringer på et åbent forum om hvad du synes er korrekt. I stedet for at hoppe på tastaturet bandit tog; klovner som dig; bør fokusere mere på hvad de siger og skriv det ned på et stykke papir først; før du begynder at skrive på et tastatur og forsøger at forsvare det uforsvarlige.

To fejl gør ikke en ret i enhver kultur; og uanset hvad du siger her Jeg har fakta detaljerne; og korrespondancen; at støtte det jeg siger. Hvis dette går til et andet forum (lovligt det er), kan jeg forsvare mig selv og min klub fuldt ud for at forsøge at gøre det rigtige, selv under undergravning. Det kan du ikke gøre…

Som for at hoppe til konklusioner; Jeg kan citere "Faktaerklæring"; med noget så simpelt som udstationering på sociale medier; og mange mennesker, der ikke kender mig personligt, ved stadig, hvem jeg er her på; så snarere end stat jeg gør dette på et maskeret, identificeret forum; Jeg er meget glad for at blive ren på, hvem jeg er; Jeg har jo ikke noget at skjule.

Send mig dog en privat massage; med hvem du er og lad os dele, hvem vi begge er; som jeg er fascineret; og også hvis du ønsker at tage dette videre; Vi kan gøre det gennem denne "Private Message" -medie privat; som du forsøger at vaske dit snavsede tøj her, gør dig ikke; din nye klub; eller den person, du forsøger at repræsentere noget godt i det mindste; som du mislykkes miserably; du har haft to forsøg, der var ret patetiske at sige mildt; eller du kan bare skrive mig som du har mit nummer.

Eller bliv ved at trykke på mine knapper og se mig eksplodere, det er dit opkald; alt jeg ville sige er meget forsigtig med resultatet, hvis du fortsætter med dette ...

Hilsen
THJ

I do hope my sentiment has not been lost, should you require the literal English Version please "Private Message" me and I will quite happily forward you the English text if my translation is somehow ambiguous; furthermore I am quite happy to progress this through the Private Messaging option should you so wish. For your information I am also quite happy to draw a line under this; move on; and put the whole shooting match to bed. Your call...

Regards
THJ

[TotallyHonestJohn 3,078]

On 11/24/2018 at 8:41 PM, Gazc said:

Is there any need it is dragging on more than Home & Away if as you say you have texts etc would you not be better to deal with this of the public domain I am not having a pop here just this is not the place to air any dirty linen. If indeed there is any in the first place to be aired.

Most of us are just supporters of our respective clubs and we all post in haste on here sometimes even me . The anti Glasgow feeling on here is partly down to what you post on here and people jumping on the bandwagon, what you post may or may not be true but it is human nature for a collective to believe what they read and build momentum growing in numbers until they say something that often most believe it.

A lot of your post's are informative and amusing but to continue with the Anti Glasgow nature of these posts you are currently drip feeding the hordes, it is getting very tiresome.

You seem like a well educated person surely you must realise that posting about how teams do business good , bad or indifferent that on here is not the place.

I bear no grudges you are doing what you think is right but please deal with this in private. 

Honesly

Gaz I have had my rant and I think you have gathered how annoyed I am at what has went on, however “it is what it is” and “we are where we are” to use a couple of old cliches.

I agree how Glasgow conduct their business is up to them however I would have had much more respect if they had done it within the rules and guidelines and if they had not just put out a statement to fans that basically said they were hard up and the club was under threat having had several previous years of losing six figure sums. Then as Laura Morgan has stated they go out and offer £10k signing on fees. There is something not right here but I am done moaning for now.

I also fully agree with you the “Chinese Whisper” brigade only compound the matter and do they honestly think ”Dave down the pub” other wise known as the reliable source knows the ins and outs of riders contracts as their comments only fan the flames of the rumour mill and infuriate others. I have stated this is my first year at having to deal with the financial side of things and the setting up of contracts and the way the process is going I honestly think it will be my last.

Finally and only as a daft suggestion one way out of the situation would be to say to Glasgow after the AGM go and get your side signed and announced you have two weeks, everyone waits till that happens then the scrum for riders can start in earnest after they have announced, and what advantage would there be in this you might ask, well; you would not have riders using Glasgow as a lever to blackmail other clubs by trying to jack up their rate when the Glasgow team has its seven riders announced that’s it. No rider would be able to say Glasgow offered me XXX as it would have no bearing with the Glasgow team filled. Then everyone else knows where they stand, I know the Glasgow team is sorted however there are still riders trying it on by saying they have been offered a deal by the club when I know it is rubbish.

Only human nature I suppose or possibly a sign of the times in this new “Trumpism Age” with a non-traditional political philosophy and approach; fake news, positive briefings and negative reinforcement, when all you want is some fair play and a level playing field. The only other option is for the BSPA to do something and make these types of “illegal approaches” for want of a better phrase, so unattractive to both club and rider that everyone involved adopts a different approach. However I cant see that ever happening.

However Buddy if the factual inaccuracies and fabrication have died down that is it from me, back to the light-hearted ribbing, and playful banter and maybe everyone now adopts the Jenga approach by qualifying their snide comments with a TiC in brackets… (Tongue in Cheek) but as far as I am concerned Merry Christmas and a very Happy Hogmanay and a Prosperous New Year and good luck to you personally and your team

Oh and I read somewhere earlier above; and on an absolute final note; there is no such thing as a "reliable source" I have found; so be very careful with that old chestnut

Regards
THJ

[ruffdiamond 6,115]

39 minutes ago, TotallyHonestJohn said:

Ærligt talt

Vil du virkelig gå ned denne rute med mig; du klovn, jeg har fyrre år i at håndtere aftaleret og det samme i Employment Law; og tredive år i europæisk aftaleret så du kan tage dit "Bar Room Solicitors Certificate" og gå tørre din backside med det; fordi det er alt det er værd. Alt du behøver at vide er dette

1. Kontraktbrud. En aftale blev indgået og brudt. Det følger heraf, at skader kunne tilskrives. Hvis kontrakten blev underskrevet eller ej. Kontrakten var "Aftalt" og "Afsluttet"

2. Inducereren (den eller de personer, der fremmer kontraktbrud). At indgyde en anden til at bryde en kontrakt er en tort i engelsk lov. Du skal blot sige det er ulovligt og en lovovertrædelse:

Loven er helt klar over det, "Ingen tvetydighed", "Intet vildledende" og "Helt klart", under engelsk lov. Ønsker du at debattere disse punkter yderligere, da jeg er meget glad for at uddanne dig yderligere, men som en person har fornuftigt foreslået, kan vi tage denne samtale så vidt du ønsker gennem processen "Private Messaging"

Desuden må du ikke nævne, hvad du mener, at BSPA'en gør som det er indlysende, du har ingen anelse; og har gjort din egen fortolkning; og du tager fuldstændig vrøvl; som sædvanligt…

Absolut ulækkert adfærd, godt, der er en erklæring, jeg har hørt et par gange før; og jeg vil fortælle dig, hvad der ellers udgør en modbydelig opførsel; "Skatte unddragelse"; hvis du betaler skat i det land du er ansat i; med hensyn til Den Europæiske Union eller i Det Forenede Kongerige eller dit hjemland: Virksomheden kan ikke modtage betalingsbetingelser; uanset om der er specifikke betalingsdatoer i kontrakten. Hvis en virksomhed faktureres korrekt, skal de betale fakturaen eller entreprenøren anvender sagen gennem domstolene for at få deres forfaldne betalinger. Men hvis du ikke har en bankkonto i dette land, og du ikke vil have dig løn indbetalt til dit hjemland bankkonto hvor forlader medarbejderen eller underleverandøren det med hensyn til tilbagebetaling af penge skyldige? Hvordan betaler arbejdsgiveren fakturaen?

Derfor er det punkt du laver, hvor du hedder "Faktisk". "Ryttere ville ikke ønske at køre for en klub, der synes at have track record for ryttere, der ikke bliver betalt ved fakturering." Det er mærkeligt, fordi på lørdag aften og helt op indtil søndag morgen din chap skulle ride for klubben, der ikke tilsyneladende betaler, og hvordan betaler de dem der

1. Producerer ikke en faktura, og

2. Har ikke en engelsk bankkonto, og

3. Ønsker det på denne måde

Så for at bruge din sætning; "Måske skal du først forstå fakta"; af hvad du kan og ikke kan gøre, både juridisk og moralsk; før udstedelse af falske offentlige erklæringer på et åbent forum om hvad du synes er korrekt. I stedet for at hoppe på tastaturet bandit tog; klovner som dig; bør fokusere mere på hvad de siger og skriv det ned på et stykke papir først; før du begynder at skrive på et tastatur og forsøger at forsvare det uforsvarlige.

To fejl gør ikke en ret i enhver kultur; og uanset hvad du siger her Jeg har fakta detaljerne; og korrespondancen; at støtte det jeg siger. Hvis dette går til et andet forum (lovligt det er), kan jeg forsvare mig selv og min klub fuldt ud for at forsøge at gøre det rigtige, selv under undergravning. Det kan du ikke gøre…

Som for at hoppe til konklusioner; Jeg kan citere "Faktaerklæring"; med noget så simpelt som udstationering på sociale medier; og mange mennesker, der ikke kender mig personligt, ved stadig, hvem jeg er her på; så snarere end stat jeg gør dette på et maskeret, identificeret forum; Jeg er meget glad for at blive ren på, hvem jeg er; Jeg har jo ikke noget at skjule.

Send mig dog en privat massage; med hvem du er og lad os dele, hvem vi begge er; som jeg er fascineret; og også hvis du ønsker at tage dette videre; Vi kan gøre det gennem denne "Private Message" -medie privat; som du forsøger at vaske dit snavsede tøj her, gør dig ikke; din nye klub; eller den person, du forsøger at repræsentere noget godt i det mindste; som du mislykkes miserably; du har haft to forsøg, der var ret patetiske at sige mildt; eller du kan bare skrive mig som du har mit nummer.

Eller bliv ved at trykke på mine knapper og se mig eksplodere, det er dit opkald; alt jeg ville sige er meget forsigtig med resultatet, hvis du fortsætter med dette ...

Hilsen
THJ

I do hope my sentiment has not been lost, should you require the literal English Version please "Private Message" me and I will quite happily forward you the English text if my translation is somehow ambiguous; furthermore I am quite happy to progress this through the Private Messaging option should you so wish. For your information I am also quite happy to draw a line under this; move on; and put the whole shooting match to bed. Your call...

Regards
THJ

So, would it be safe to assume that, that conversation took place with a foreign rider ?

[singy13 372]

12 minutes ago, ruffdiamond said:

So, would it be safe to assume that, that conversation took place with a foreign rider ?

Laura knows how to 'bring home the bacon' for sure.

[Tsunami 10,219]

13 minutes ago, ruffdiamond said:

So, would it be safe to assume that, that conversation took place with a foreign rider ?

NO, it's the way THJ usually speaks. 

[mac101 1,187]

Google translate 

 

Do you really want to go down this route with me; you clown, I have forty years to deal with contract law and the same in Employment Law; thirty years in European contract law so you can take your "Bar Room Solicitors Certificate" and wipe your backside with it; because that's all worth it. All you need to know is this

1. Breach of contract. An agreement was concluded and broken. It follows that damages could be attributed. If the contract was signed or not. The contract was "Agreed" and "Completed"

2. Induce (the person (s) promoting contractual breach). To invoke another to break a contract is a violation of English law. Simply say it's illegal and a crime:

The law is completely aware of it, "No ambiguity", "Nothing misleading" and "Clearly," under English law. Do you want to debate these points further, as I am very happy to educate you further, but as a person has reasonably suggested, we can take this conversation as far as you wish through the process of "Private Messaging"

In addition, do not mention what you think the BSPA does as it is obvious, you have no clue; and have made your own interpretation; and you take complete rubbish; as usual…

Absolutely disgusting behavior, well, there is a statement I've heard a few times before; and I will tell you what otherwise constitutes a disgusting behavior; "Tax evasion"; if you pay taxes in the country you are employed in; with respect to the European Union or in the United Kingdom or your home country: The company can not receive payment terms; regardless of whether there are specific payment dates in the contract. If a company is invoiced correctly, they must pay the invoice or the contractor applies the case through the courts to receive their due payments. But if you do not have a bank account in this country and you do not want your salary paid to your home country bank account, where does the employee or subcontractor leave it in respect of repayment of money owed? How does the employer pay the invoice?

Therefore, the point you make is called "Actual". "Riders would not want to drive for a club that seems to have track record for riders who are not paid for billing." It's strange because on Saturday evening and all the way up until Sunday morning your chap was going to ride for the club that does not seem to pay and how do they pay them there

1. Does not produce an invoice, and

2. Do not have an English bank account, and

3. Wish it this way

So to use your sentence; "Perhaps you must first understand the facts"; of what you can and can not do, both legal and moral; before issuing false public statements on an open forum about what you think is correct. Instead of jumping on the keyboard bandit train; clowns like you; should focus more on what they say and write it down on a piece of paper first; before you start typing on a keyboard and try to defend it irresponsible.

Two mistakes do not make a right in any culture; and whatever you say here I have the facts the details; and correspondence; to support what I say. If this goes to another forum (legally it is), I can defend myself and my club fully to try to do the right, even undermining. You can not do that…

Like to jump to conclusions; I can quote the "Declaration of Facts"; with something as simple as posting on social media; and many people who do not know me personally still know who I am here at; so rather than state I do this on a masked, identified forum; I am very happy to be clean on who I am; I have nothing to hide.

Send me a private massage; with who you are and let us share who we are both; as I am fascinated; and also if you wish to take this on; We can do it through this "Private Message" media privately; As you try to wash your dirty clothes here, you do not; your new club; or the person you try to represent something good at least; as you fail miserably; You have had two attempts that were quite pathetic to say the least; Or you can just write me as you have my number.

Or, press my buttons and see me explode, it's your call; all i would say is very careful about the result if you continue with this ...

Regards
WF

I do hope my sentiment has not been lost, should you require the English version please "Private Message" me and I will quite happily forward you the English text if my translation is somehow ambiguous; furthermore I am quite happy to progress this through the Private Messaging option should you wish. For your information I am also quite happy to draw a line under this; move on; and put the whole shooting match to bed. Your call ...

Regards
WF

[TotallyHonestJohn 3,078]

Lost a bit in translation there but never mind taking advice from Gazc and he can have my transcript within a private message if he wants the offer is there

To my Danish friend that is not Gazc... although Gaz can have it too if he wants however I believe it will be a resounding no from him...

Regards

THJ 

Edited November 26, 2018 by TotallyHonestJohn
Edited for accuracy

[ruffdiamond 6,115]

Things seem a bit clearer now.

[TotallyHonestJohn 3,078]

3 hours ago, thetruthhonesty said:

Dickie? Clown? Your response reflect nothing short of a breach in the forum rules, it’s rude abusive and offensive. I expected nothing less of course.

Please indulge the forum with said chapter and verse; you seem to believe you are the only one here with a brain, unfortunately for you, I have a lot more cells to the single that you have.

Focus more on your club and paying received invoices on time and in full, rather than playing the big I am clogging up a forum and refusing to accept your pitiful opinions are not those of everyone else. Vicious individuals like that of yourself are destroying what’s left of speedway.

See you trackside 

#lovetouchinganerve 

#lovethenervesbeingtouched

Keep pressing the buttons one of them will switch the fan on...

Read your Danish post...

#brownstuffeverywhere

Regards

THJ 

Oh and here's one you might not know or remember 

#callmybluff

#Idareyou

 

Edited November 26, 2018 by TotallyHonestJohn
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[Crump99 4,474]

I do like a bit of cabaret. And no I'm not following you THJ. The ignore function doesn't stop unwanted posts showing on the right of the front page so I thought that I'd see who you're upsetting on here. Great entertainment

[MD 1,305]

24 pages of utter sh1te and not a single signing announced.

#resentmentcentral

[Gazc 7,089]

27 minutes ago, MD said:

24 pages of utter sh1te and not a single signing announced.

#resentmentcentral

Dont despair our dearest allies from Cunbria have announced 4 of our signings on there thread , how very decent of them .

[WorkyWorky 201]

3 minutes ago, Gazc said:

Dont despair our dearest allies from Cunbria have announced 4 of our signings on there thread , how very decent of them .

Ey up Gaz, you’re letting the big spenders thread slip down the ranks, you’ve only got another 74 pages to go before you hit your target! 

[WorkyWorky 201]

13 minutes ago, Gazc said:

Dont despair our dearest allies from Cunbria have announced 4 of our signings on there thread , how very decent of them .

Sorry added to that... CupidStunt posted 6 of your team on Friday in this thread