Falcon1983 557 Posted September 19, 2019 A 12 team top league is 22 league fixtures which would be better, if they go 8 or 10 they double up the fixtures and I think one it's too many fixtures and secondly it's boring 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevebrum 6,820 Posted September 19, 2019 1 hour ago, Falcon1983 said: A 12 team top league is 22 league fixtures which would be better, if they go 8 or 10 they double up the fixtures and I think one it's too many fixtures and secondly it's boring Won’t happen. Too many selfish 2nd tier teams that have no ambition or cut their cloth accordingly. No other credible league has that many teams. The top league in the World has 8 (Poland) whilst Sweden have 1 more. No other league has more teams. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
waytogo28 2,054 Posted September 20, 2019 On 9/17/2019 at 2:04 PM, foreverblue said: Hot property on his current average at a track he likes. Bomber blows far too Hot & Cold even at a track he likes. And with one eye ( or perhaps both ) on getting back in the GP where will his best efforts really happen? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
foreverblue 6,091 Posted September 20, 2019 23 minutes ago, waytogo28 said: Bomber blows far too Hot & Cold even at a track he likes. And with one eye ( or perhaps both ) on getting back in the GP where will his best efforts really happen? He has very little chance of getting back to the gp's and wouldn't be any good if he did. His main focus has to be league racing now. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Falcon1983 557 Posted September 20, 2019 10 hours ago, stevebrum said: Won’t happen. Too many selfish 2nd tier teams that have no ambition or cut their cloth accordingly. No other credible league has that many teams. The top league in the World has 8 (Poland) whilst Sweden have 1 more. No other league has more teams. If it was a choice of Premier League or Conference however do you think most would just be happy to drop back into the Conference or would it make them step up? With 12 teams the points limit would have to drop accordingly perhaps with the no.7 being a protected Brit who stays at 7 all season? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevebrum 6,820 Posted September 20, 2019 1 hour ago, Falcon1983 said: If it was a choice of Premier League or Conference however do you think most would just be happy to drop back into the Conference or would it make them step up? With 12 teams the points limit would have to drop accordingly perhaps with the no.7 being a protected Brit who stays at 7 all season? The promoters don’t want a bigger league because some of them are selfish plus some of the riders have openly said they need 2 leagues to survive so you would lose several to retirement as well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sings4Speedway 3,247 Posted September 20, 2019 1 hour ago, Falcon1983 said: If it was a choice of Premier League or Conference however do you think most would just be happy to drop back into the Conference or would it make them step up? With 12 teams the points limit would have to drop accordingly perhaps with the no.7 being a protected Brit who stays at 7 all season? Is that not going to create greater divides between the abilities of riders? Its tough enough when PL heat leaders line up against NL second strings in the CL this season. Are you implying that Jason Doyle & Luke Harris in the same race is good for the sport or the entertainment factor? A smaller league with a higher minimum rider average for the top league is required so that the gulf in class is reduced. Closer matched riders on the right tracks will produce far better racing and entertainment than one or two superstars disappearing half a lap into the distance. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Falcon1983 557 Posted September 20, 2019 1 hour ago, Sings4Speedway said: Is that not going to create greater divides between the abilities of riders? Its tough enough when PL heat leaders line up against NL second strings in the CL this season. Are you implying that Jason Doyle & Luke Harris in the same race is good for the sport or the entertainment factor? A smaller league with a higher minimum rider average for the top league is required so that the gulf in class is reduced. Closer matched riders on the right tracks will produce far better racing and entertainment than one or two superstars disappearing half a lap into the distance. that depends if you want to help promote Youth For me if it was a 12 club top league, the no.7 should be a protected rider with the likes of Kemp, Flint etc. being at 7 getting 3 rides in a 13 heat format. These no.7's then double down to the conference. However, as already suggested people do not want this so I do agree that perhaps less teams say 8 with a minimum average entry into it would be good. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ruckerroo 792 Posted September 20, 2019 15 hours ago, Falcon1983 said: A 12 team top league is 22 league fixtures which would be better, if they go 8 or 10 they double up the fixtures and I think one it's too many fixtures and secondly it's boring a 12 team league cabbages the other 2 divisions tbh Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IronScorpion 1,407 Posted September 20, 2019 30 minutes ago, Falcon1983 said: that depends if you want to help promote Youth For me if it was a 12 club top league, the no.7 should be a protected rider with the likes of Kemp, Flint etc. being at 7 getting 3 rides in a 13 heat format. These no.7's then double down to the conference. However, as already suggested people do not want this so I do agree that perhaps less teams say 8 with a minimum average entry into it would be good. Promote youth gradually & not like the EDR system a few years ago. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sings4Speedway 3,247 Posted September 20, 2019 31 minutes ago, Falcon1983 said: that depends if you want to help promote Youth For me if it was a 12 club top league, the no.7 should be a protected rider with the likes of Kemp, Flint etc. being at 7 getting 3 rides in a 13 heat format. These no.7's then double down to the conference. However, as already suggested people do not want this so I do agree that perhaps less teams say 8 with a minimum average entry into it would be good. Im all for promotion of emerging riders (be that youthful or otherwise) however ive always been in favour of being good enough rather than young enough. Protecting riders has done no favours in the past whilst the Aussies have no comfort blanket at all and it is a pure case of sink or swim. There will obviously be riders lost by the wayside who are either no strong enough on or off the track but those that are left will ultimately have made the grade. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Arch Stanton 2,247 Posted September 23, 2019 https://www.eadt.co.uk/sport/louis-looks-ahead-to-play-offs-and-back-on-the-season-1-6285927 4.10 in, “proposed sale of the club, which hasn’t happened yet” Interesting! So Keith Chapman ISN’T the current owner of Ipswich Witches.. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ArthurRudge 347 Posted September 23, 2019 1 hour ago, Arch Stanton said: https://www.eadt.co.uk/sport/louis-looks-ahead-to-play-offs-and-back-on-the-season-1-6285927 4.10 in, “proposed sale of the club, which hasn’t happened yet” Interesting! So Keith Chapman ISN’T the current owner of Ipswich Witches.. I thought he had bought the thing Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skidder1 7,634 Posted September 24, 2019 It sounds as thought the sale/purchase process has been somewhat drawn out. But wasn't it suggested before the season started that Louis had a 'buy back' clause after the first season in the proposed agreement?! I'm sure I read that somewhere. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Baldyman 6,243 Posted September 24, 2019 (edited) Mmmm, I'm thinking more like a no sale if he doesn't lose money clause. I very much doubt there was ever going to be a sale,,, just uncle Buster agreeing to pay any debt that may occur Edited September 24, 2019 by Baldyman 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
