wealdstone 3,454 Posted November 15, 2018 6 minutes ago, Halifaxtiger said: Nonsense. He doesn't even have a majority in the top flight and there are (at present) 20 other clubs. I respect your opinion , but in my view he has the clout to close down the premier league if so minded Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Halifaxtiger 5,318 Posted November 15, 2018 13 minutes ago, wealdstone said: I respect your opinion , but in my view he has the clout to close down the premier league if so minded Even if that is accepted, it doesn't mean by a long chalk that speedway is under the control of one man. You overlook the fact that without him the Premiership probably would have closed down. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wealdstone 3,454 Posted November 15, 2018 56 minutes ago, Halifaxtiger said: Even if that is accepted, it doesn't mean by a long chalk that speedway is under the control of one man. You overlook the fact that without him the Premiership probably would have closed down. Exactly the point I am making closing it down is in his hands one way or the other. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chadster 221 Posted November 15, 2018 The air fence hasn't helped Rye House. Last time I was there, there were really only quite limited viewing options. As it stood, I always thought it was a track that didn't need an air fence such was the amount of run off on the bends Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cityrebel 2,960 Posted November 15, 2018 36 minutes ago, Chadster said: The air fence hasn't helped Rye House. Last time I was there, there were really only quite limited viewing options. As it stood, I always thought it was a track that didn't need an air fence such was the amount of run off on the bends All licenced tracks have to have an air fence. It's compulsory. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jonny the spud 2,281 Posted November 15, 2018 11 hours ago, GWC said: If Rye House were to settle their bills and monies owed to riders the bspa might let them rejoin a league. It’s not just Rye house that owe riders thousands. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Daniel Smith 5,659 Posted November 16, 2018 3 hours ago, Jonny the spud said: It’s not just Rye house that owe riders thousands. So, Swindon or Lakeside?? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Halifaxtiger 5,318 Posted November 16, 2018 (edited) 12 hours ago, wealdstone said: Exactly the point I am making closing it down is in his hands one way or the other. If two of the other clubs(or maybe even just one) had pulled out, the Premiership would have folded no matter what Chapman did. It isn't just down to him. However, it is down to him buying into Peterborough & Ipswich that the Premiership is able to continue in 2019. It is typical of the attitude of some members of this forum that a man saving not just a team but an entire league can be twisted into something suitable for negative comment. Its little wonder that the forum itself is often regarded as utterly without credibility. Edited November 16, 2018 by Halifaxtiger 7 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sings4Speedway 3,247 Posted November 16, 2018 2 hours ago, Halifaxtiger said: If two of the other clubs(or maybe even just one) had pulled out, the Premiership would have folded no matter what Chapman did. It isn't just down to him. However, it is down to him buying into Peterborough & Ipswich that the Premiership is able to continue in 2019. It is typical of the attitude of some members of this forum that a man saving not just a team but an entire league can be twisted into something suitable for negative comment. Its little wonder that the forum itself is often regarded as utterly without credibility. Buster is clearly no mug, he has a very solid product at Kings Lynn however without a Premiership to race in it is useless. His takeovers enable his priority venture to continue in the setting he wishes. With any luck he will buy Mildenhall & Rye House ready to move them up too next sseason. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wealdstone 3,454 Posted November 16, 2018 2 hours ago, Halifaxtiger said: If two of the other clubs(or maybe even just one) had pulled out, the Premiership would have folded no matter what Chapman did. It isn't just down to him. However, it is down to him buying into Peterborough & Ipswich that the Premiership is able to continue in 2019. It is typical of the attitude of some members of this forum that a man saving not just a team but an entire league can be twisted into something suitable for negative comment. Its little wonder that the forum itself is often regarded as utterly without credibility. Oh Dear!! 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
arnieg 3,637 Posted November 16, 2018 2 hours ago, Halifaxtiger said: If two of the other clubs(or maybe even just one) had pulled out, the Premiership would have folded no matter what Chapman did. It isn't just down to him. However, it is down to him buying into Peterborough & Ipswich that the Premiership is able to continue in 2019. It is typical of the attitude of some members of this forum that a man saving not just a team but an entire league can be twisted into something suitable for negative comment. Its little wonder that the forum itself is often regarded as utterly without credibility. It is clear that the other clubs owe Chapman for enabling the league to continue and must have given tacit ( if not active) support for the purchases of Ippo and P'boro. But in the absence of a robust framework for the administration of the sport and the lack of checks and balances, it is not surprising that concerns are being expressed. But it is not as if the PL had much integrity to lose. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
adonis 1,454 Posted November 16, 2018 3 hours ago, Halifaxtiger said: If two of the other clubs(or maybe even just one) had pulled out, the Premiership would have folded no matter what Chapman did. It isn't just down to him. However, it is down to him buying into Peterborough & Ipswich that the Premiership is able to continue in 2019. It is typical of the attitude of some members of this forum that a man saving not just a team but an entire league can be twisted into something suitable for negative comment. Its little wonder that the forum itself is often regarded as utterly without credibility. The same people on other threads or media ,are suggesting a Bernie ecclestone / Barry Hearn type ,takes the whole sport over 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skidder1 7,634 Posted November 16, 2018 (edited) Well Buster will have to wait at least another year before he gets his hands on Poole! As for a Bernie Ecclestone/Barry Hearn character, can somebody tell me what team sports either of these or similar have taken on and made more successful? Its one thing to promote individuals in sports that are indoors and under cover in modern fit-for-purpose venues, giving the participants gladitorial personas and big fanfares!! What would be in it for such an entrepreneur to take on speedway? Edited November 16, 2018 by Skidder1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alan_Jones 1,005 Posted November 16, 2018 6 minutes ago, Skidder1 said: Well Buster will have to wait at least another year before he gets his hands on Poole! As for a Bernie Ecclestone/Barry Hearn character, can somebody tell me what team sports either of these or similar have taken on and made more successful? Its one thing to promote individuals in sports that are indoors and under cover in modern fit-for-purpose venues, giving the participants gladitorial personas and big fanfares!! What would be in it for such an entrepreneur to take on speedway? Ecclestone & F1 obviously although I must say I never realised it was an indoor sport. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Halifaxtiger 5,318 Posted November 16, 2018 (edited) 4 hours ago, arnieg said: It is clear that the other clubs owe Chapman for enabling the league to continue and must have given tacit ( if not active) support for the purchases of Ippo and P'boro. But in the absence of a robust framework for the administration of the sport and the lack of checks and balances, it is not surprising that concerns are being expressed. But it is not as if the PL had much integrity to lose. Part of my point here is that there are some who can't wait to stick the boot in, no matter what. If Peterborough had closed and the Premiership disbanded they would have taken great delight in blaming Chapman for that. I don't think its just the clubs that owe him a debt, its speedway as a whole. He has been much maligned over the past year or so and some it was fully justified, but I really don't see how anyone connected with the sport can give him anything but praise and credit where this is concerned - money where his mouth is comes very much to mind. As to integrity, I think speedway (again as a whole) lost that some time ago. Edited November 16, 2018 by Halifaxtiger 6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites