northyorksbear 610 Posted July 3, 2019 1 hour ago, SteelShoe said: Riss a very good signing for the Bears but feel for Ully who appeared to be finding his form. Tom Woolley rode on numerous occasions for Worky Comets in the second half of 2017 season, it's fair to say he was nowhere near Championship level at that time. Seems like the Bears never gave Jack Smith any time to change his mind so it was probably in the managements thoughts to replace him. So a rider asks to be replaced but then you decide to wait s day a week a month in case they change their mind!! Possibly the most ridiculous post I have read this season 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ruckerroo 792 Posted July 3, 2019 they've replaced a reserve who scores little with a reserve guaranteed to score nothing, other signings are risky too Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
foamfence 2,917 Posted July 3, 2019 8 minutes ago, ruckerroo said: they've replaced a reserve who scores little with a reserve guaranteed to score nothing, other signings are risky too Looking on the bright side..... They've signed a new number one and found an adequate replacement for a rider with a serious injury. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mac101 1,197 Posted July 3, 2019 Think the points played a part in it needed to drop smith to fit the other 2 plus a 2 pointer JS was just over 3 and Tom bacon might not be back this season 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Speedway28 171 Posted July 3, 2019 What's the deal with Jack Smith? A move lined up or just wanting to quit Championship racing? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fromafar 10,343 Posted July 3, 2019 14 minutes ago, Speedway28 said: What's the deal with Jack Smith? A move lined up or just wanting to quit Championship racing? It doesn’t look like Smith is going to make a big impression in the Sport IMO.Had more chance than a lot of juniors but not showing much.. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
speed ace 64 Posted July 3, 2019 18 minutes ago, Speedway28 said: What's the deal with Jack Smith? A move lined up or just wanting to quit Championship racing? Something tells me Jack did not step down voluntarily 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
boz 316 Posted July 3, 2019 To be fair, the release from Redcar says what happened. Jack said he wanted to leave (rumour has it after being replaced in one of his rides by Nathan Greaves in the Leicester home meeting). He then changed his mind, but deal had ready been done with Andersen. A tad hasty by Redcar perhaps, but if a rider tells you he wants to be released how long do you give him to change his mind. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Paulco 7,072 Posted July 3, 2019 Seems a bizarre move with the cup tie on Friday in mind . Ok Riss is probably an improvement on Ostergaard and it would seem Bacon might not be fit again this season . But Woolley for Smith ???? Dont see how that is going to improve things , and Anderson looked woeful at Glasgow when Sheffield were up in the last round . I was concerned about using r/r for Bacon in the second leg , as arguably it made Redcar stronger , but with Anderson and Woolley now in their side , I'm a bit more confident of Glasgow progressing Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
boz 316 Posted July 3, 2019 I think it is still r/r for Bacon on Friday. Andersen does not come in until Sunday. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yearbyred 1,102 Posted July 3, 2019 I assume we needed a 2 point rider when we got Riss as a new Nr1 to stay below the points limit. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
speed ace 64 Posted July 4, 2019 2 hours ago, speed ace said: Something tells me Jack did not step down voluntarily 2 hours ago, speed ace said: Something tells me Jack did not step down voluntarily 2 hours ago, Speedway28 said: What's the deal with Jack Smith? A move lined up or just wanting to quit Championship racing? Sorry hadn't realized he had asked to step down Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SteelShoe 497 Posted July 4, 2019 (edited) 20 hours ago, northyorksbear said: So a rider asks to be replaced but then you decide to wait s day a week a month in case they change their mind!! Possibly the most ridiculous post I have read this season Really ? i can quite easily see the following scenario: say Jack Smith was banging in big scores and for some reason being a young lad he impetuously asks to be replaced immediately after a meeting. If the management hadn't already planned to bring in Erik Riss and Kasper Andersen do you not think they would have talked to him, given him a couple of days to think it over then if he still felt the same then fair enough ?. The fact that the averages wouldn't fit the 40 point increase on the 30th June precluded that happening. In effect Jack probably saved them the job of dispensing with him. Edited July 4, 2019 by SteelShoe Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
foamfence 2,917 Posted July 4, 2019 22 minutes ago, SteelShoe said: Really ? i can quite easily see the following scenario: say Jack Smith was banging in big scores and for some reason being a young lad he impetuously asks to be replaced immediately after a meeting. If the management hadn't already planned to bring in Erik Riss and Kasper Andersen do you not think they would have talked to him, given him a couple of days to think it over then if he still felt the same then fair enough ?. The fact that the averages wouldn't fit the 40 point increase on the 30th June precluded that happening. In effect Jack probably saved them the job of dispensing with him. The fact is he hasn't progressed in the way he was expected to, many other young riders have caught up and overtaken him (literally), that doesn't mean he can't or won't improve but currently he's even disappointing in the NL. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SteelShoe 497 Posted July 4, 2019 Not really about Jack's prowess as a speedway rider but after saying this the guy is only 20, he went through what must have been a hugely confidence sapping season at Swindon last year. He has probably outscored Nathan Greaves on most occasions at home so far this term but Nathan has been much more effective away. There is time for him to make his mark yet. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites