Charlieboy 412 Posted November 17, 2018 With what steady was saying on Thursday about promises been broken and payments not been made then any rider signing for polish clubs deserve what they get.If they not going to pay Greg Hancock then the lesser riders have no chance and the contract that nick I pedersen has is ridiculous .Theres no way he will get paid the amount promised. Promotors would stay clear of riders entering the polish league if they could only use nl riders only.Steadys comments were backed up by Kyle howarths dad so it's about time the English lads realised were their loyalties lie. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Third Man 2,214 Posted November 17, 2018 Just now, Charlieboy said: With what steady was saying on Thursday about promises been broken and payments not been made then any rider signing for polish clubs deserve what they get.If they not going to pay Greg Hancock then the lesser riders have no chance and the contract that nick I pedersen has is ridiculous .Theres no way he will get paid the amount promised. Promotors would stay clear of riders entering the polish league if they could only use nl riders only.Steadys comments were backed up by Kyle howarths dad so it's about time the English lads realised were their loyalties lie. he also said its all about hoping to get paid, and that most get paid something eventually. I think they all know the risks now and they might just go there in hope they get paid on time or at all because if they do get paid it is a lot of money. the talk about Hancock was that the amount he was owed was in 100s of thousands Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
leander 495 Posted November 17, 2018 12 minutes ago, The Third Man said: he also said its all about hoping to get paid, and that most get paid something eventually. I think they all know the risks now and they might just go there in hope they get paid on time or at all because if they do get paid it is a lot of money. the talk about Hancock was that the amount he was owed was in 100s of thousands They usually do get paid as clubs do not get a license to operate for the upcoming season if they still have debts (including rider payments). It's usually about January or February though (after the clubs tend to receive their sponsorship payments for the coming season). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Charlieboy 412 Posted November 17, 2018 Well apparently Morris is owed £28000 and Hancock I think was said to be £300 000 it's a joke. Surely common sense says ride in England for two clubs and get paid I have no sympathy for any rider riding for a promise in this day and age when they know the likelihood of getting no money. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
arnieg 3,634 Posted November 17, 2018 1 hour ago, Charlieboy said: Well apparently Morris is owed £28000 and Hancock I think was said to be £300 000 it's a joke. Surely common sense says ride in England for two clubs and get paid I have no sympathy for any rider riding for a promise in this day and age when they know the likelihood of getting no money. Of course there have never been any complaints about riders not getting paid in the UK? 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jenga 2,998 Posted November 17, 2018 2 hours ago, Charlieboy said: Well apparently Morris is owed £28000 and Hancock I think was said to be £300 000 it's a joke. Surely common sense says ride in England for two clubs and get paid I have no sympathy for any rider riding for a promise in this day and age when they know the likelihood of getting no money. 38 minutes ago, arnieg said: Of course there have never been any complaints about riders not getting paid in the UK? and yet with all these figures blowing around , the riders STILL cant make any money at the sport ........ oink oink ........ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Charlieboy 412 Posted November 18, 2018 9 hours ago, arnieg said: Of course there have never been any complaints about riders not getting paid in the UK? No complaints at Sheffield it must be down to good business sense unlike other clubs .If you can't afford it don't offer it that's just logic . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
phillipsr 2,053 Posted November 18, 2018 9 minutes ago, Charlieboy said: No complaints at Sheffield it must be down to good business sense unlike other clubs .If you can't afford it don't offer it that's just logic . Theres has been complaints previously at Sheffield Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
crescent girl 1,905 Posted November 18, 2018 15 hours ago, The Third Man said: Would be good if the only facility for a rider missing a meeting in England was a NL guest as well What facility would you suggest for riders missing Friday-night matches at Glasgow or Edinburgh? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bigcatdiary 3,165 Posted November 18, 2018 16 hours ago, The Third Man said: The Sheffield promotion stated on Thursday that will not sign any rider who has a contract to ride in Poland, so none of them will be riding for us Would be good if the only facility for a rider missing a meeting in England was a NL guest as well Probably because as the home side they likely wouldn’t get a facility if one or more of their team was riding abroad, they will also now find out that they could struggle to get teams to commit to their home fixtures, especially re arranged ones. As for the UK if riders cannot commit to doubling up in this country then let them just ride in the Premiership. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fromafar 10,358 Posted November 18, 2018 53 minutes ago, crescent girl said: What facility would you suggest for riders missing Friday-night matches at Glasgow or Edinburgh? Same as other Clubs if rules are brought in.! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Third Man 2,214 Posted November 18, 2018 1 hour ago, crescent girl said: What facility would you suggest for riders missing Friday-night matches at Glasgow or Edinburgh? Why are they missing? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
leander 495 Posted November 18, 2018 22 hours ago, racers and royals said: It’s 80% Sundays 10% Fridays and 10% Saturdays Not next year it ain't. All four extraleague fixtures are televised live every weekend. Two on Fridays, and two on Sundays. So that's 50/50 fridays and sundays. Also two first division matches are televised every weekend. Probably on a saturday, as I can't see there being four matches live on TV on a sunday. Possible consequences for every championship club. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
leander 495 Posted November 18, 2018 16 hours ago, arnieg said: Of course there have never been any complaints about riders not getting paid in the UK? Yes but it is the first thing they sort out at the conference, and team captains can report non payment to the referee at every match. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
racers and royals 8,720 Posted November 18, 2018 Just now, leander said: Not next year it ain't. All four extraleague fixtures are televised live every weekend. Two on Fridays, and two on Sundays. So that's 50/50 fridays and sundays. Also two first division matches are televised every weekend. Probably on a saturday, as I can't see there being four matches live on TV on a sunday. Possible consequences for every championship club. I Wasn’t talking about the Extraleague !!! Only one rider Ellis on that list of over 30 riders is riding Extraleague and possibly championship. There have been regularly 2 Nice Polska Tv matches on Sundays as well as the occasional Friday/ Saturday Nice Polska Tv matches hence the various % differences. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites