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27 minutes ago, teaboy279 said:

It would be a waste if that's all it stayed as.

At the bare minimum if it was allowed league speedway next year, you could be pretty certain promotions would be looking to race a Raiders and a Hammers team out of there in the NL at the very least.

I was convinced that both Rye House and The Hammers were going to both come to the tapes at hoddesdon this season. With one traditionally a Friday team and one a Saturday it could and can work I would of thought. Due to the relatively relaxed restrictions on the venue and its location, I am actually surprised more nomadic clubs have not tried using it as a temporary home.

At this present moment Rye House is an unlicensed track. The stadium owners have big issues to overcome with the BSPA before racing could resume there. I would imagine obtaining a certificate to stage public events could be a problem as well. 

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14 minutes ago, cityrebel said:

At this present moment Rye House is an unlicensed track. The stadium owners have big issues to overcome with the BSPA before racing could resume there. I would imagine obtaining a certificate to stage public events could be a problem as well. 

Oh I know, until some serious debt gets cleared one way or another there wont be any change in status there.

But I do think a current or even a wannabe promoter will eventually go in and buy out Warren Scott and his buisneses. Whether that's in a year or in five years time who knows. As long as the venue is regularly used then its future as a shale oval at least seems as secure as anything can be these days.

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9 minutes ago, teaboy279 said:

Oh I know, until some serious debt gets cleared one way or another there wont be any change in status there.

But I do think a current or even a wannabe promoter will eventually go in and buy out Warren Scott and his buisneses. Whether that's in a year or in five years time who knows. As long as the venue is regularly used then its future as a shale oval at least seems as secure as anything can be these days.

Both the Rye and Lakeside promotions  lost serious money there last season. The place is probably only sustainable as a NL venue. Who in their right mind would lay out serious wedge for a few hundred people. Len knew the fan base was shrinking and the stadium needed major investment, that's why he got out.

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53 minutes ago, cityrebel said:

Both the Rye and Lakeside promotions  lost serious money there last season. The place is probably only sustainable as a NL venue. Who in their right mind would lay out serious wedge for a few hundred people. Len knew the fan base was shrinking and the stadium needed major investment, that's why he got out.

If the fan base was "shrinking", how was it that there were reports of huge numbers when the team moved into the top section. They raced then on Saturdays and only lost their people when it was moved to mid week.  I made many visits to Rye over the years and always saw lots of people there and good viewing. I could sit in the grandstand in comfort which was more than I could do at my own track at Lakeside. Racing was always very good although dust was often a problem on windy days.  A real shame that it is not running and I hope that it will come back into a league in the near future.

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11 minutes ago, East End Fan said:

If the fan base was "shrinking", how was it that there were reports of huge numbers when the team moved into the top section. They raced then on Saturdays and only lost their people when it was moved to mid week.  I made many visits to Rye over the years and always saw lots of people there and good viewing. I could sit in the grandstand in comfort which was more than I could do at my own track at Lakeside. Racing was always very good although dust was often a problem on windy days.  A real shame that it is not running and I hope that it will come back into a league in the near future.

The crowd levels were poor during Len's last couple of years there. I agree the numbers were good on saturdays when they first went into the top flight, but when they were forced to stage midweek meetings it killed the track off. Until speedway in this country runs on the nights that are most convenient to the fans, it will always struggle.

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I think some are missing the point a little.

As a "Training Track" it can sustain a speedway track, it can actually make money, presumably all these riders training have to pay to use the track, and it can act as a venue ideal for those in South and Midlands in that guise.

Better a Training track than a Housing Development.

It's clearly going to take some time for the Owners to sort out Debts and Liabilities and after the debacle of Lakeside, who were financially solvent until moving there it seems; the BSPA will quite rightly be wary of giving anyone permission to run there.

I don't think the Lakeside move encourages anyone to run there as anything but Rye House or Hoddesdon branded...."Hoddesdon Hawks" anyone??? - has a nice ring for old Hackney fans??.

Wasn't there talk of Connor Dugard wanting to run NL there in the winter, I'm sure I read that in the NL season preview in the Speedway Star, presumably he, or his backers; or the BSPA decided it was not viable at this point even at NL level.

Personally I think, let it thrive as a Training venue for a year or so and then look again, but it would be a brave man or woman who would venture there to promote in my opinion.

  

 

  

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Running a few training schools is not going to bring in enough funds to pay for the upkeep of the stadium. The owners probably have substantial bills to pay like the rest of us. You would need multiple weekly incomes to keep the place afloat. After all, this is not Iwade we are talking about.

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On 5/9/2019 at 10:59 AM, cityrebel said:

Running a few training schools is not going to bring in enough funds to pay for the upkeep of the stadium. The owners probably have substantial bills to pay like the rest of us. You would need multiple weekly incomes to keep the place afloat. After all, this is not Iwade we are talking about.

So what do YOU think will happen there ?  Getting back to Kent matters.  I have missed reports about young Alec Spooner. Obviously out inhured, but does

anyone know the extent and how long he will be out.  I like this youngster, his enthusiasm shows in his s.... or bust style. 

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4 hours ago, East End Fan said:

So what do YOU think will happen there ?  Getting back to Kent matters.  I have missed reports about young Alec Spooner. Obviously out inhured, but does

anyone know the extent and how long he will be out.  I like this youngster, his enthusiasm shows in his s.... or bust style. 

Who knows what Will happen at Rye. Only the SCB and their creditors probably know their true debts. Getting back to Kent. Despite more crashes on monday, i think a real effort was made to put on a slicker show than my previous visit. The crowd was very healthy again. I was also present when the Kings won at Stoke in an entertaining meeting the previous afternoon. All in all, a couple of days of decent speedway.

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6 hours ago, East End Fan said:

So what do YOU think will happen there ?  Getting back to Kent matters.  I have missed reports about young Alec Spooner. Obviously out inhured, but does

anyone know the extent and how long he will be out.  I like this youngster, his enthusiasm shows in his s.... or bust style. 

He is very enthusiastic and his swash buckling style is what won him Kent supporters rider of the year last year. I spoke to him at Stoke on Sunday & he is still not sure how long he will be out but the specialist said between 2-4 weeks, Kent are certainly weaker without him. 

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22 minutes ago, flipper11 said:

He is very enthusiastic and his swash buckling style is what won him Kent supporters rider of the year last year. I spoke to him at Stoke on Sunday & he is still not sure how long he will be out but the specialist said between 2-4 weeks, Kent are certainly weaker without him. 

Many thanks.  What are his actual injuries ?

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20 minutes ago, East End Fan said:

Many thanks.  What are his actual injuries ?

Rotator cuff. I think he has torn the muscles around his shoulder. 

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3 hours ago, flipper11 said:

Rotator cuff. I think he has torn the muscles around his shoulder. 

Nasty

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On 5/15/2019 at 7:44 PM, cityrebel said:

Nasty

Oh dear .I have had Rotator cuff injury for over a year , still hurts and my shoulder and arm are weak as a kitten , hope the lad can afford some physio , because thats the only cure ,

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22 hours ago, adonis said:

Oh dear .I have had Rotator cuff injury for over a year , still hurts and my shoulder and arm are weak as a kitten , hope the lad can afford some physio , because thats the only cure ,

Yeah I ve had a couple of mates with similar injuries. One was never able to go back to work despite multiple surgerys.

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