Guest Posted February 14, 2019 Does anyone remember Otto Holoubek from Austria and his brief flirtation with Ipswich in the mid 1950s? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chunky 6,018 Posted February 14, 2019 2 hours ago, frigbo said: Both ex-Sheffield Yeah, the Tigers have had their share of mediocrity over the years! Iris, you say you don't remember them? You may have blinked; they both had a British career that lasted a whopping two races! Jan Zabik was a little better; he averaged over 4, and managed a maximum. Steve 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iris123 20,855 Posted February 14, 2019 8 minutes ago, chunky said: Yeah, the Tigers have had their share of mediocrity over the years! Iris, you say you don't remember them? You may have blinked; they both had a British career that lasted a whopping two races! Jan Zabik was a little better; he averaged over 4, and managed a maximum. Steve I guess what I mean is not only did I miss their UK career I missed their whole career even on the continent.At least with Bøgh I did subsequently hear of him.Same with Kurt Hansen from Halifax A number of these riders in the past few days the first I ever heard of them was when someone posted something here!!! Even living in Germany I have never heard of Odematt. But most of my speedway friends here come from the old East Germany so riders like Tetzlaff ,Ernst or Mike Ott are mentioned more than the West Germans Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chunky 6,018 Posted February 14, 2019 2 minutes ago, iris123 said: I guess what I mean is not only did I miss their UK career I missed their whole career even on the continent.At least with Bøgh I did subsequently hear of him.Same with Kurt Hansen from Halifax A number of these riders in the past few days the first I ever heard of them was when someone posted something here!!! Even living in Germany I have never heard of Odematt. But most of my speedway friends here come from the old East Germany so riders like Tetzlaff ,Ernst or Mike Ott are mentioned more than the West Germans Don't forget, Ernst Bogh also appeared for Leicester in 1976, along with Grzegorz Szczepanik and the almost-as-ineffective Pepe Teromaa. Again, I think Teromaa could have been okay given more time. Steve 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Grachan 7,314 Posted February 14, 2019 16 hours ago, frigbo said: Henk Steman Finished ahead of Martin Ashby twice! (Mind you, Martin Ashby had an EF both times - once at Oxford and once at Swindon) 1 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iris123 20,855 Posted February 14, 2019 Yes,it is also possible if I look back I’m my old Programme collection I have actually seen one or two live,just they made absolutely no impression on me.Teromaa I do remember and his more successful brothet Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chunky 6,018 Posted February 14, 2019 At Wolverhampton, they tried Jerzy Kowalski (who tragically died after a crash later in 1978), Hans Christensen, and Knud Ellegard. Someone given a little more time at Monmore without really showing anything was Leif Berlin. Steve Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sidney the robin 4,735 Posted February 14, 2019 Borje Klingberg was a huge disappointment for me, had a good pedigree just didnt happen for him.At Swindon Sumner Mcknight who had good aquipment struggled terribly. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iris123 20,855 Posted February 14, 2019 (edited) It was also pot luck if you saw some of these guys.Halifax and Sheffield didn’t visit Wimbledon often and you’d sometimes be wishing they didn’t kick a rider out before we met them Another was Jan Jakobsen at Cradley.Can't really remember him.We were in another league by then anyway.But subsequently met him and his son.He managed Vojens,i think and his son was one of the best on the 80cc.From memory I was there when he won the junior world championship Edited February 14, 2019 by iris123 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Grachan 7,314 Posted February 14, 2019 In 1975, Swindon announced that they were going to sign Kenneth Selmonsson from the touring side Kaparna. Sadly we missed out on him in the end and went for Jan Andersson instead. So that worked out pretty well! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andrew 125 Posted February 14, 2019 3 hours ago, chunky said: Yeah, the Tigers have had their share of mediocrity over the years! Iris, you say you don't remember them? You may have blinked; they both had a British career that lasted a whopping two races! Jan Zabik was a little better; he averaged over 4, and managed a maximum. Steve Wieslaw Patynek had two races at Eastbourne,failing to score.He then crashed on the Sheffield training track breaking his back,so never got to appear at Owlerton. Zan Zabik was built like a tank,or so it seemed to a young me! Allan Fogg.Came on loan from Eastbourne,nice equipment,no idea how to use it. Rob Steman.He rode one meeting for the Tigers, v Reading in 1995,hopelessly out of his depth he trailed in a distance last in each of his three rides.However,Roman Matousek had bike problems,so he borrowed Steman's machine and somehow he managed to win the race on it,even though it was belching out smoke from various places ! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
frigbo 514 Posted February 14, 2019 A few more 'legends' Johannes Fransden Thomas Ravn Nano Righetto Finn Jensen (Eastbourne) Christoph Betzl Markku Helminen Frits Koppe Toni Pilotto Jorgen Hultgren Torben Hansen Csaba Hell 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iris123 20,855 Posted February 14, 2019 Again,another I can't remember seeing in action during his brief spell,but someone I have met since. Torben Hansen who helped save and run the Skaerbaek Speedway Club http://speedwaylife.com/danish-tracks/skaerbaek-speedway-stadium/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tracy Bird 66 Posted February 14, 2019 Thomas pettersson,kjell gimre,lars Inge hultberg,Erik tilgaard,Einar egedius gotfred andreasen Henryk glucklich,jerzy trzeszkowski 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chunky 6,018 Posted February 14, 2019 (edited) 56 minutes ago, frigbo said: A few more 'legends' Johannes Fransden Thomas Ravn Nano Righetto Finn Jensen (Eastbourne) Christoph Betzl Markku Helminen Frits Koppe Toni Pilotto Jorgen Hultgren Torben Hansen Csaba Hell When I made that post about Wolves riders earlier, I was also thinking about Helminen and Frandsen... Edited February 14, 2019 by chunky Share this post Link to post Share on other sites