Grachan 7,314 Posted April 18, 2019 On 4/16/2019 at 6:36 PM, BWitcher said: Don't get me wrong 1 valve, Tai is good but he hasn't got anyone to beat. So much easier now, just turn up, win, ride round, don't have to win many races, pressure? No, closed shop, rivals not around. In the 70's did you see a rider lose a race before a World Final? So tough the competition, Betts. Look at it, Ashby. Legends. Pusey, warrior. Would he lose a race today, don't think so. Grand Prix, back in the day, wow, Mauger would have won 20+, Olsen too, Collins 10... could you see them losing a race, wow, competition, Les Collins, grand prix, would he get beat, be honest? Carter, be world champ 5 times over in a GP, tough, Sanders! Different class. Joe Owen, different level, Think 1 valve. Were you there? Spot on about Joe Owen. Used to average 11 for Newcastle back in the day. If that's not proof that the old Second Division was stronger than the top league is now, then what is? 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iris123 20,853 Posted April 18, 2019 What is more amazing is those old riders done it all and still had time to down 7 pints of ale before,during or after every meeting. Not like the lilly livered health freaks of today Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BuxtonTiger 119 Posted April 18, 2019 And then drive home and be at work the following morning!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mikebv 10,163 Posted April 18, 2019 Down the pit.... 24 hour shifts too... Seven days a week..... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
steve roberts 9,241 Posted April 18, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, BuxtonTiger said: And then drive home and be at work the following morning!! ...and early morning starts for Pete Wigley who was a postman and Dave Younghusband a milkman and, yes, before any smart alec replies I understand the 'tongue in cheek' direction in which this particular thread is heading! Edited April 18, 2019 by steve roberts Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chunky 6,016 Posted April 18, 2019 34 minutes ago, mikebv said: Down the pit.... 24 hour shifts too... Seven days a week..... Only seven? You were lucky! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stoke Potter 242 Posted April 18, 2019 Back to topic; it needs (at least) 2 to make a race, and 2 men made that race. It's a shame Pedersen still hasn't found the missing engine "ingredient" that he's been lacking for approx 5 seasons and that the very top riders have sussed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CountyGround 75 Posted April 21, 2019 The current GP system has a bias advantage toward Polish & Polish league riders with "3" GPs based in Poland!!!!! Without that advantage it would take exceptional talent to become a WC today. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rich 75 Posted April 21, 2019 How many current GP riders don't ride in the Polish League ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
racers and royals 8,697 Posted April 21, 2019 3 hours ago, Rich said: How many current GP riders don't ride in the Polish League ? 1 and that might not be for too long. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rich 75 Posted April 21, 2019 Quote 3 hours ago, CountyGround said: The current GP system has a bias advantage toward Polish & Polish league riders with "3" GPs based in Poland!!!!! Without that advantage it would take exceptional talent to become a WC today. Quote 3 hours ago, Rich said: How many current GP riders don't ride in the Polish League ? Quote 15 minutes ago, racers and royals said: 1 and that might not be for too long. Not much "bias advantage" there then. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
screm 7,988 Posted April 21, 2019 On 4/18/2019 at 5:59 PM, iris123 said: What is more amazing is those old riders done it all and still had time to down 7 pints of ale before,during or after every meeting. Not like the lilly livered health freaks of today Its called progress. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites