crescent girl 1,905 Posted May 6, 2019 2 minutes ago, Cerro said: Its not like speedway to make anything easy is it It is hardly the BSPA's fault that Workington dropped out, and left the groups imbalanced. The calculations that provide 'best runner-up' are pretty fair. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cerro 190 Posted May 6, 2019 (edited) 2 minutes ago, crescent girl said: It is hardly the BSPA's fault that Workington dropped out, and left the groups imbalanced. The calculations that provide 'best runner-up' are pretty fair. They are absolutely fair not disputing that. Edited May 6, 2019 by Cerro Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gazc 7,093 Posted May 6, 2019 29 minutes ago, crescent girl said: It is hardly the BSPA's fault that Workington dropped out, and left the groups imbalanced. The calculations that provide 'best runner-up' are pretty fair. There post wasn't blaming anyone just pointing out that they don't do it the easy way. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ruffdiamond 6,115 Posted May 6, 2019 37 minutes ago, Gazc said: There post wasn't blaming anyone just pointing out that they don't do it the easy way. Now, that would be silly. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
allthegearbutnaeidea 1,734 Posted May 6, 2019 26 minutes ago, Gazc said: There post wasn't blaming anyone just pointing out that they don't do it the easy way. What is the easy way? It’s a group stage of a tournament with 11 teams in it? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Uluru 80 Posted May 6, 2019 2 hours ago, jackofdiamonds said: Jedd List looking very fast after the meeting, albeit racing alone. I would try and fit him in if we can. I been telling you guys that for a fortnight. Get him in! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dandelion 775 Posted May 6, 2019 16 minutes ago, Uluru said: I been telling you guys that for a fortnight. Get him in! We're just waiting for someone else to snap him up... And then be like "there's no one available" that's what we usually do... No offence to Simon but there's nothing to lose... I like Simon but brough is not his track at all 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
leander 495 Posted May 6, 2019 43 minutes ago, allthegearbutnaeidea said: What is the easy way? It’s a group stage of a tournament with 11 teams in it? Two groups. North and south. Top two from each qualify for semi's. With Workington dropping out that would of resulted with the group of 5 having EXACTLY the same number of fixtures they would have had before Workington withdrew. The group of 6 would have had one extra fixture to fit in during the season. It's not like everyone has 20 fixtures to fit in during the season. This season we've started later and next week sees our 2nd blank week in 8! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ruffdiamond 6,115 Posted May 6, 2019 19 minutes ago, leander said: Two groups. North and south. Top two from each qualify for semi's. With Workington dropping out that would of resulted with the group of 5 having EXACTLY the same number of fixtures they would have had before Workington withdrew. The group of 6 would have had one extra fixture to fit in during the season. It's not like everyone has 20 fixtures to fit in during the season. This season we've started later and next week sees our 2nd blank week in 8! and we've never had a rain-off yet !!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
allthegearbutnaeidea 1,734 Posted May 6, 2019 39 minutes ago, leander said: Two groups. North and south. Top two from each qualify for semi's. With Workington dropping out that would of resulted with the group of 5 having EXACTLY the same number of fixtures they would have had before Workington withdrew. The group of 6 would have had one extra fixture to fit in during the season. It's not like everyone has 20 fixtures to fit in during the season. This season we've started later and next week sees our 2nd blank week in 8! How would it be the same number of meetings? Surely Somerset in a group of 3 having 4 meetings finding themselves in a group of 6 having 10 meetings is more than 1 extra meeting? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
leander 495 Posted May 6, 2019 3 hours ago, allthegearbutnaeidea said: How would it be the same number of meetings? Surely Somerset in a group of 3 having 4 meetings finding themselves in a group of 6 having 10 meetings is more than 1 extra meeting? Same number of meetings as BEFORE Workington withdrew. Glasgow, Edinburgh, and Berwick all lost 2 home meetings (before Shield groups were reorganised) when Workington withdrew ( 1 Shield, 1 League). Somerset were originally in a group of four so they had 3 shield + 11 league = 14. They have actually lost two meetings 1 each in the Shield and one in the league. If they were in the group of five they would have the same number 4 shield + 10 league = 14, if they were in the group of six they would gain 1 as per 5 Shield+ 10 league = 15. Now they have 2 shield + 10 league =12. That's home meetings, same applies to away fixtures, so they are 4 down overall home and away. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Paulco 7,075 Posted May 6, 2019 Let's just go and win at Armadale and let others worry about the maths 4 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SharpenRake 1,505 Posted May 7, 2019 19 hours ago, leander said: It's calculated on an average basis of points per meeting or something like that. That actually gives the three team group a slight advantage as each meeting is worth more percentage-wise. Glasgow need two points from their outstanding fixture (14/6 = 2.33) to have a better record than Somerset (9/4 = 2.25). 1 point is not enough (13/6 = 2.16). Berwick have qualified irrespective of whether they finish first or second in the group. Another way of looking at it is that the Edinburgh v tigers rain off could delay the rest of the competition. We all know what happened last year.its not Glasgow fault that the Edinburgh match was rained off so Glasgow should not suffer if the bspa bring in a deadline for the match to be completed. Somerset average 2.25 from there 4 meetings and Glasgow are averaging 2.4 from there 5 meetings. So if Edinburgh can't fit the match in or it gets rained off again Glasgow should be included as the best runner up 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ruffdiamond 6,115 Posted May 7, 2019 19 minutes ago, SharpenRake said: Another way of looking at it is that the Edinburgh v tigers rain off could delay the rest of the competition. We all know what happened last year.its not Glasgow fault that the Edinburgh match was rained off so Glasgow should not suffer if the bspa bring in a deadline for the match to be completed. Somerset average 2.25 from there 4 meetings and Glasgow are averaging 2.4 from there 5 meetings. So if Edinburgh can't fit the match in or it gets rained off again Glasgow should be included as the best runner up Now, your just trying to complicate things Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
leander 495 Posted May 7, 2019 6 hours ago, SharpenRake said: Another way of looking at it is that the Edinburgh v tigers rain off could delay the rest of the competition. We all know what happened last year.its not Glasgow fault that the Edinburgh match was rained off so Glasgow should not suffer if the bspa bring in a deadline for the match to be completed. Somerset average 2.25 from there 4 meetings and Glasgow are averaging 2.4 from there 5 meetings. So if Edinburgh can't fit the match in or it gets rained off again Glasgow should be included as the best runner up Friday 14 June is a blank/reserved date for both clubs so that would seem to be the obvious solution. Alternatively Glasgow are due at Edinburgh in the league on 28th June, so that could be switched to Shield fixture or run a double header on that date. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
