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Are the FIM really in control of speedway worldwide or are the Polish Authorities exempt?

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Let’s face it the FIM don’t care about motorcycle sport at all these days as all they do is rent each discipline out to the highest bidder, not necessarily the best for the sport itself, as for SGP they should have stood up to the PZM along with the riders to stop this happening.

ive noticed crowds are down at many polish clubs compared to a couple of years ago as they move to different race days and if the tv money dries up as it has here it could go **** up over there.

i don’t think due to the contracts the riders have much choice but that’s the same everywhere for speedway riders, no rights.

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9 hours ago, PHILIPRISING said:

WHATEVER you may think of the SON, it is a World Championship and certainly seen as such by the riders, especially those that collect a gold medal.

So, whatever happened to the World Team Cup, not enough riders to go round, or too expensive

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3 hours ago, crazyb said:

So, whatever happened to the World Team Cup, not enough riders to go round, or too expensive

THE SON is in effect the World Team Cup but with a different format. 

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13 hours ago, PHILIPRISING said:

THINK it was a joint effort from both the FIM and BSI/IMG to beef up interest in Friday's practice but, unlike F1 for example, being fastest the day before actually means nothing.

That’s not the way the current world champion sees it. He clearly stated tonight that he missed out through not being able to practice/qualify yesterday.

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39 minutes ago, Aviator said:

That’s not the way the current world champion sees it. He clearly stated tonight that he missed out through not being able to practice/qualify yesterday.

ZMARZKIK won and he didn't practice... but we weren't talking about practice as such but the time trials to allow riders to chose their starting number.

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Am I the only person who remembers when we had the majority of top riders in the British League and people were saying "why should BSI be allowed to basically hijack Saturday nights... if it wasn't for league racing there would be no riders to race in the GP,  and yet they steal the riders away in precedence to the leagues"...? now people are saying the Polish league should be told they are not allowed to run on the Friday as well as the Saturday...? 

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Poland rule Speedway and the Fim bow down to them.

If they had any balls they would say practice is now compulsory

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9 hours ago, PHILIPRISING said:

ZMARZKIK won and he didn't practice... but we weren't talking about practice as such but the time trials to allow riders to chose their starting number.

The qualifying time trials are in essence “practice”. It gives riders a chance to “guage” the track and, determine if their set ups are right for the track.

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10 hours ago, Aviator said:

That’s not the way the current world champion sees it. He clearly stated tonight that he missed out through not being able to practice/qualify yesterday.

The way I saw it was, he wants to ride in Poland on a Friday night to get the money and because he doesn't want to practice then no one should be allowed to.

However last nights winner didn't practice

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Zmarzlik was the only one of the ones who didn't practice/qualify to get to the final,apart from a mediocre performance from Woffinden the others were pretty dire.As said in an earlier post the Polish league pays the riders a lot more compared to the GP but many of their sponsors back them on the back of GP coverage,whch this season is practice/qualifying on tv.

 

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12 hours ago, PHILIPRISING said:

THE SON is in effect the World Team Cup but with a different format. 

Never in a month of Sundays is it as good. Cut down on the expenses and have one rider from each country, or just cut the cards 

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3 minutes ago, crazyb said:

Never in a month of Sundays is it as good. Cut down on the expenses and have one rider from each country, or just cut the cards 

THAT is a view probably shared by many but not all ...

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27 minutes ago, blocktread said:

Zmarzlik was the only one of the ones who didn't practice/qualify to get to the final,apart from a mediocre performance from Woffinden the others were pretty dire.As said in an earlier post the Polish league pays the riders a lot more compared to the GP but many of their sponsors back them on the back of GP coverage,whch this season is practice/qualifying on tv.

 

If that's the case its up to the riders to say they are going to the practice and not ride in the league match, I cant imagine the PZM will ban a potential Polish world champion if he insists on going to the practice.

or does the amount they earn on a Friday night mean they are willing to take the risk?

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I find the son a poor substitute for the  world team cup .with teams in it with no chance of getting to the final no disrespect to any of the riders involved .the only thing which I happen to like is the two day final. still everybody to there own opinion I see the final is sat and sunday this year I think 

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While you continue to have a good deal of talent coming through the ranks from a wide range of European nations who can travel to the likes of Poland with relative ease, the Polish authorities will not give a fig what the rest of the speedway world thinks. Britain has no chance of ever getting back the status it once had as the place for riders to hone their skills in one of the best league sets ups that use to exist. That may have happened by default and largely due to the relative ease of access that riders had to the U.K. compared to Eastern Bloc countries many many years back.

The FIM don’t seem to be the controlling force they once were and all in all the sport has become fragmented with different factions seeking to take care of ‘number one’

As for the U.K. they should start to plough their own furrow. Afterall Poland says it is their way or no way so why not bite the bullet in the U.K. and start from scratch. Build leagues with what you can afford with riders who will commit to ride here and also improve the ‘employment terms’ so that riders are not dumped at the drop of a hat. Build some loyalty to the team and work with them rather than treat them as commodities and most of all the clubs in the U.K. should unite to promote the sport as a whole and not occasionally at local level. When it gets to a position of strength it might then be able to stick two fingers up at the Poles and the FIM. Until then it remains a lap dog.

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