89buttons 751 Posted July 1, 2019 2 hours ago, Barrow Boy 2 said: My top 20 riders as at 30.06.19 based on current form are now as follows:- 01 (01) Jason Doyle-Swindon-1100 02 (05) Max Fricke-Belle Vue-1090 03 (----) Rasmus Jensen-Swindon-1060 04 (----) Craig Cook-King's Lynn-1020 05 (02) Troy Batchelor-Swindon-1000 06 (12) Josh Grajczonek-Poole-990 07 (03) Brady Kurtz-Poole-970 08 (06) Robert Lambert-King's Lynn-930 09 (08) Jack Holder-Poole-925 10 (04) Rory Schlein-Wolverhampton-900 11 (07) Kenneth Bjerre-Belle Vue-890 12 (15) Sam Masters-Wolverhampton-885 13 (14) Richard Lawson-Ipswich-870 14 (13) Nicolai Klindt-Poole-840 15 (09) Rohan Tungate-Peterborough-830 16 (10) Charles Wright-Peterborough-810 17 (20) Chris Harris-Ipswich-770 18 (18) Steve Worrall-Belle Vue-765 19 (17) Jake Allen-Ipswich-760 20 (----) Hans Andersen-Peterborough-755 I’m aware this is your opinion in terms of top 20, I’m curious as to what the criteria is for how you work it out? Given that you use the term “current form” In past month Jake Allen has been out injured yet makes the list and in that time cameron Heeps has scored 9(a), 13+2(h), 17+1(a), 13+2(h), and not made the list!? not a having a dig I’m just interested how an injured rider can be in better form than someone paid for 57 points over 4 meetings!! im sure people have asked before, I’m just interested, for me if I were to do something similar I think it would have to be largely a subjective list based on my expectations of riders based upon my idea of what their current level is as a purely statistical is already offered by official averages! So for example Heeps would probably be at the very top of the form table given he’s been beating all sorts of heat leaders home and away! And for example luke Becker would be right up there given it’s his first season in uk speedway straight in the top flight and for me he’s far exceeding expectation, Charles Wright and Rasmus Jensen far exceeding expectations this year etc. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
89buttons 751 Posted July 1, 2019 2 hours ago, Barrow Boy 2 said: My top 20 riders as at 30.06.19 based on current form are now as follows:- 01 (01) Jason Doyle-Swindon-1100 02 (05) Max Fricke-Belle Vue-1090 03 (----) Rasmus Jensen-Swindon-1060 04 (----) Craig Cook-King's Lynn-1020 05 (02) Troy Batchelor-Swindon-1000 06 (12) Josh Grajczonek-Poole-990 07 (03) Brady Kurtz-Poole-970 08 (06) Robert Lambert-King's Lynn-930 09 (08) Jack Holder-Poole-925 10 (04) Rory Schlein-Wolverhampton-900 11 (07) Kenneth Bjerre-Belle Vue-890 12 (15) Sam Masters-Wolverhampton-885 13 (14) Richard Lawson-Ipswich-870 14 (13) Nicolai Klindt-Poole-840 15 (09) Rohan Tungate-Peterborough-830 16 (10) Charles Wright-Peterborough-810 17 (20) Chris Harris-Ipswich-770 18 (18) Steve Worrall-Belle Vue-765 19 (17) Jake Allen-Ipswich-760 20 (----) Hans Andersen-Peterborough-755 I’m aware this is your opinion in terms of top 20, I’m curious as to what the criteria is for how you work it out? Given that you use the term “current form” In past month Jake Allen has been out injured yet makes the list and in that time cameron Heeps has scored 9(a), 13+2(h), 17+1(a), 13+2(h), and not made the list!? not a having a dig I’m just interested how an injured rider can be in better form than someone paid for 57 points over 4 meetings!! im sure people have asked before, I’m just interested, for me if I were to do something similar I think it would have to be largely a subjective list based on my expectations of riders based upon my idea of what their current level is as a purely statistical is already offered by official averages! So for example Heeps would probably be at the very top of the form table given he’s been beating all sorts of heat leaders home and away! And for example luke Becker would be right up there given it’s his first season in uk speedway straight in the top flight and for me he’s far exceeding expectation, Charles Wright and Rasmus Jensen far exceeding expectations this year etc. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
noggin 1,388 Posted July 1, 2019 15 minutes ago, auntie doris said: Used to watch him in second halves at Worky about 14 years ago, wonder what happened to older bruv James Wrighty who rode for Worky and Swindon, thought he would have a name for himself in speedway? Not sure whether he is still riding, sure he rode last season. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ouch 1,191 Posted July 1, 2019 He does the odd grasstrack meeting. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Baldyman 6,243 Posted July 1, 2019 1 hour ago, 89buttons said: I’m aware this is your opinion in terms of top 20, I’m curious as to what the criteria is for how you work it out? Given that you use the term “current form” In past month Jake Allen has been out injured yet makes the list and in that time cameron Heeps has scored 9(a), 13+2(h), 17+1(a), 13+2(h), and not made the list!? not a having a dig I’m just interested how an injured rider can be in better form than someone paid for 57 points over 4 meetings!! im sure people have asked before, I’m just interested, for me if I were to do something similar I think it would have to be largely a subjective list based on my expectations of riders based upon my idea of what their current level is as a purely statistical is already offered by official averages! So for example Heeps would probably be at the very top of the form table given he’s been beating all sorts of heat leaders home and away! And for example luke Becker would be right up there given it’s his first season in uk speedway straight in the top flight and for me he’s far exceeding expectation, Charles Wright and Rasmus Jensen far exceeding expectations this year etc. The 20 riders riding above there averages by the most are obviously the top 20 form riders. It's not how this chap does it though. So basically form has jack all to do with it,,,it's about what races you are in,, as the supposed bigger races are points loaded. Anyone can make up a system and stick it on here,,,,if that's your bag. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
auntie doris 2,342 Posted July 1, 2019 Jensen and Heeps have had a great season so far. Jensen has just won Robins rider of the month for June, just pipping Batch. Ellis won it in May pipping Batch with Doyle third! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Barrow Boy 2 172 Posted July 31, 2019 My top 20 riders on current form as at 30.07.19 are now as follows:- 01 (02) Max Fricke-Belle Vue-1080 02 (01) Jason Doyle-Swindon-1075 03 (05) Troy Batchelor-Swindon-1040 04 (08) Robert Lambert-King's Lynn-1020 05 (06) Josh Grajczonek-Poole-970 06 (03) Rasmus Jensen-Swindon-960 07 (07) Brady Kurtz-Poole-950 08 (09) Jack Holder-Poole-945 09 (11) Kenneth Bjerre-Belle Vue-920 10 (14) Nicolai Klindt-Poole-915 11 (12) Sam Masters-Wolverhampton-900 12 (04) Craig Cook-King's Lynn-890 13 (15) Rohan Tungate-Peterborough-860 14 (17) Chris Harris-Ipswich-795 15 (---) Tobias Musielak-Swindon-790 16 (---) Jacob Thorsell-Wolverhampton-785 17 (10) Rory Schlein-Wolverhampton-780 18 (---) Cameron Heeps-Ipswich-770 19 (---) Dan Bewley-Belle Vue-750 20 (---) Danny King-Ipswich-730 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv 10,706 Posted July 31, 2019 4 hours ago, auntie doris said: Charles Wright can't be far off the top 20, or Ryan Douglas.Heeps hasn't seemed to have maintained his early season form. 11 from 4 last week..... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv 10,706 Posted July 31, 2019 Has Brady Kurtz ridden in the last month? How is he at 7? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TommyTanker 75 Posted July 31, 2019 Because its his top 20 and he can put in any one he wants, even if it makes no sense at all. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
auntie doris 2,342 Posted August 1, 2019 Fricko, Doyley, Batch, Lambo, Holder, Jensen, Grajczonek, Bjerre, Klindt, Cookie, Masters, Muesli, King, Tungate, Lawson, Thorsell, Wright, Heeps, Schlein, Bewley. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
auntie doris 2,342 Posted August 6, 2019 (edited) Fricke home form is good, but pants away lately. Bjerre, Doyley, Batch top away riders. Edited August 6, 2019 by auntie doris Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Barrow Boy 2 172 Posted September 5, 2019 As at 31.08.19 my top 20 riders are now as follows:- 01 (02) Jason Doyle-Swindon-1180 02 (03) Troy Batchelor-Swindon-1040 03 (09) Kenneth Bjerre-Belle Vue-1000 04 (01) Max Fricke-Belle Vue-980 05 (11) Sam Masters-Wolverhampton-920 06 (06) Rasmus Jensen-Swindon-910 07 (16) Jacob Thorsell-Wolverhampton-905 08 (12) Craig Cook-King's Lynn-890 09 (07) Brady Kurtz-Poole-880 10 (10) Nicolai Klindt-Poole-870 11 (08) Jack Holder-Poole-860 12 (----) Michael Palm Toft-King's Lynn-810 13 (----) Nick Morris-Wolverhampton-805 14 (----) Eric Riss-King's Lynn-790 15 (19) Dan Bewley-Belle Vue-785 16 (20) Danny King-Ipswich-780 17 (----) Lewis Kerr-King's Lynn-775 18 (17) Rory Schlein-Wolverhampton-770 19 (18) Cameron Heeps-Ipswich-750 20 (----) Adam Ellis-Swindon-745 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
auntie doris 2,342 Posted September 5, 2019 I will go Doyle Batch Bjerre Fricke Jensen Masters Kurtz Thorsell Cook Musielak Holder Grajczonek Ellis Morris Klindt Lambo Riss PalmSoft Schlein King Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HenryW 1,178 Posted September 8, 2019 (edited) My top 20 riders, as of today, based on a calculation that I am happy to explain if anyone cares (I know you don't) are: Niels Kristian Iversen 10.46 Jason Doyle 10.41 Max Fricke 10.05 Troy Batchelor 9.99 Brady Kurtz 9.37 Kenneth Bjerre 9.28 Craig Cook 9.27 Robert Lambert 9.00 Jack Holder 9.00 Rasmus Jensen 9.00 Sam Masters 8.92 Nicolai Klindt 8.72 Jacob Thorssell 8.62 Rory Schlein 8.57 Tobiasz Musielak 8.24 Rohan Tungate 8.18 Josh Grajczonek 8.17 Daniel King 8.06 Richard Lawson 7.89 Adam Ellis 7.77 Edited September 8, 2019 by HenryW Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
