daveallan81 330 Posted June 25, 2019 I've got a point kicking in the for/against totals of Aldershot and Rye House. The results I have are: 13/07 Aldershot 51 Rye 32 14/07 Rye 52 Aldershot 29 07/09 Aldershot 60 Rye 23 08/09 Rye 48 Aldershot 35 Can someone please confirm these results? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BL65 655 Posted June 25, 2019 (edited) 7 hours ago, daveallan81 said: 13/07 Aldershot 51 Rye 32 Confirmed. 14/07 Rye 52 Aldershot 29 Confirmed. 07/09 Aldershot 60 Rye 23 Aldershot 59 Rye House 23. Speedway Star and Speedway World both reported 60-23; in Peter Morrish's 'British Speedway Leagues 1946 - 1964' it is shown as 59-23. 08/09 Rye 48 Aldershot 35 Confirmed. Edited June 25, 2019 by BL65 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest compost Posted June 25, 2019 (edited) 57 minutes ago, BL65 said: Re Aldershot 60/59 Rye House 23 The Speedway Researcher file for Aldershot has the score as 60-23. The listed heat results and rider scorecard both tally 60 for Aldershot. So any idea as to what happened to the missing Poppies point ? Edited June 25, 2019 by compost Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BL65 655 Posted June 25, 2019 (edited) 40 minutes ago, compost said: Re Aldershot 60/59 Rye House 23 The Speedway Researcher file for Aldershot has the score as 60-23. The listed heat results and rider scorecard both tally 60 for Aldershot. So any idea as to what happened to the missing Poppies point ? Unfortunately not.... yet. The league tables published in the Speedway Star included the score of 60-23 up until 2nd November, when the final table reflected the amendment to 59-23, but with no explanation given. Edited June 25, 2019 by BL65 Additional information. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
daveallan81 330 Posted June 25, 2019 Good stuff, thank you. I spent a while double checking the Researcher files last night and discovered that in the 07/09 report Dave Slater is missing from the individual scorechart. He scores 2 (0, 0, 1, 1). It didn't resolve the extra point issue of course but perhaps it could be a lead. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest compost Posted June 25, 2019 37 minutes ago, daveallan81 said: Good stuff, thank you. I spent a while double checking the Researcher files last night and discovered that in the 07/09 report Dave Slater is missing from the individual scorechart. He scores 2 (0, 0, 1, 1). It didn't resolve the extra point issue of course but perhaps it could be a lead. The Researcher file is definitly wrong in the rider scorecard for this match. Pratt is listed as having ridden in 4 heats with a total of 4 - 2 and not the 3 - 1 given on the card (his and Slaters missing points give the Roosters their tally of 23 as expected). Neither matters as both are Rye riders and it isn't the Rye total that appears wrong. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BL65 655 Posted June 25, 2019 6 minutes ago, compost said: The Researcher file is definitly wrong in the rider scorecard for this match. Pratt is listed as having ridden in 4 heats with a total of 4 - 2 and not the 3 - 1 given on the card (his and Slaters missing points give the Roosters their tally of 23 as expected). Neither matters as both are Rye riders and it isn't the Rye total that appears wrong. I was about to mention that the riders' totals in the close season SAL track reviews in the Star differ regarding several riders compared to the figures in the 1946-1964 book, with a missing point for Colin Pratt in the Star being one of them. Also, it is quite possible that the reports/scores in the Star and World were from the same source; the Researcher information may have been obtained from a marked programme, which compounds the 60 point mystery, unless the programme was filled in by the Star reporter! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
daveallan81 330 Posted June 25, 2019 Where are CSI: Aldershot when you need them? I forgot to mention the Colin Pratt "error" (a word I'm reluctant to use because I fully appreciate the difficulty in ascertaining the facts from back in the day). All I can add at this point is the 59-23 result tallies with the S.A.L. table on the SGB website, which will do nicely for my purposes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
norbold 7,100 Posted June 25, 2019 Just as a sideline on this, I checked through the Rye House results for 1957. Out of the ten SAL fixtures they raced, only one resulted in a score that added up to 84! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BL65 655 Posted June 26, 2019 20 hours ago, norbold said: Just as a sideline on this, I checked through the Rye House results for 1957. Out of the ten SAL fixtures they raced, only one resulted in a score that added up to 84! In 3 of the 5 Rye House challenge matches that season there was also a 'missing' point. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
