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1 minute ago, Mark said:

Scott's point was the U21 haver there own competition.   SoN is to find the best nation so it should be the best 3 riders.   that isn't living in the past but correct.

So how do the under 21s learn racing in their own age bracket at world level. When you make it a pairs competition it changes the dynamic. 

Asking them to have 1 race at this level is hardly a problematic scenario and enables them to learn.

Its very much living in the past. It’s a dinosaur mentality and shunts development.

 

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3 minutes ago, sommelier said:

And the less said about Kenny carter, idiot OFF

He was a murderer. No time for him. Took away his children’s mother. 

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1 minute ago, acef said:

So how do the under 21s learn racing in their own age bracket at world level. When you make it a pairs competition it changes the dynamic. 

Asking them to have 1 race at this level is hardly a problematic scenario and enables them to learn.

Its very much living in the past. It’s a dinosaur mentality and shunts development.

 

 I think best 3 riders and the manager can use any combination.     like in all other sports U21s play in their own age group unless good enough to get in the senior squad.

name two other sports that have a rule where a junior must compete in a senior side.

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11 minutes ago, sommelier said:

 

The Only true Brit to put on a English race jacket was Kenny Carter

So with 3 World Team Cup winner medals, and a World best pairs winners medal with Simmo, John Louis is not a true Brit ? He is certainly a better human being than Carter ever was...

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Just now, Steve Shovlar said:

He’s a murderer. No time for him.

Bit like me, no time for you

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1 minute ago, Mark said:

 I think best 3 riders and the manager can use any combination.     like in all other sports U21s play in their own age group unless good enough to get in the senior squad.

name two other sports that have a rule where a junior must compete in a senior side.

I can’t name 2 because there aren’t 2

But that doesn’t make it right. 
 

 

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1 minute ago, acef said:

I can’t name 2 because there aren’t 2

But that doesn’t make it right. 
 

 

speedway is one of a kind.

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2 minutes ago, sommelier said:

Bit like me, no time for you

How anyone can still think kindly of Carter, after what he did, beggars belief. Might have been a top rider but was a monster for his act.

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Start delays are out of control here.

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21 behind but we do we have a race in hand...:D

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2 minutes ago, Mark said:

speedway is one of a kind.

Indeed 

It would be interesting to find another sport, at world level, as a pairs event, and see what rules they have in place there.

Its not comparable because our set of circumstances isn’t seen elsewhere 

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Not even riding for pride. Best bet is to just pull out.

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Cook obviously injured.  Bomber out of his depth.

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