ch958 2,393 Posted August 2, 2019 23 minutes ago, Gunner85 said: The only way we can have one league in today’s Speedway is to dilute the teams sufficiently to make Speedway viable for all teams. It may mean saying goodbye to any SGP riders and allowing Britain to race on the night that suits each team. fine by me 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
waytogo28 2,054 Posted August 2, 2019 25 minutes ago, Gunner85 said: The only way we can have one league in today’s Speedway is to dilute the teams sufficiently to make Speedway viable for all teams. It may mean saying goodbye to any SGP riders and allowing Britain to race on the night that suits each team. The only way forward if the essential revival is to have a chance of success. 18 minutes ago, HGould said: Is answer to announce a one league structure at next AGM but to leave 3 tier in 2020 and allow proper planning and preparation for 2021. Further delay to a re-structuring may leave very little that is viable, that can play a part in the plans for 2021. In November of last year in the Crisis edition of SS it said vital changes were needed for 2019! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevebrum 6,820 Posted August 2, 2019 31 minutes ago, Gunner85 said: The only way we can have one league in today’s Speedway is to dilute the teams sufficiently to make Speedway viable for all teams. It may mean saying goodbye to any SGP riders and allowing Britain to race on the night that suits each team. And still wouldn’t have enough riders unless the standard is a hybrid of CL and NL. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
craigACE 91 Posted August 2, 2019 And then if the one big league happens what will the designated meetings nights be ?. We are Mon/Thurs now. That suits most riders so that they can ride for their 2nd team. But surely when there is a meeting on the tv there should be nobody else in action. Sort of feels impossible to do that though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
A ORLOV 8,628 Posted August 2, 2019 The thought of someone like Jason Doyle racing against a NL rider is really going to drive the fans away. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mikebv 10,243 Posted August 2, 2019 (edited) 26 minutes ago, stevebrum said: And still wouldn’t have enough riders unless the standard is a hybrid of CL and NL. That would surely have to be the standard Steve.. I would go as far as five man teams.. No 1 - A current Prem/Champ Heat Leader No 2 - A current Prem Second String/Champ Heat Leader No3 - A current Prem Reserve/Champ Second String No4 - A current Champ Reserve/ NL Heat Leader No5 - A current NL Heat Leader/Second String.. Circa £3.5k the lot per night max.. £300, £500, £700, £900, £1100 per night per rider.. 16 teams, regional split, race home and away twice in your region and once in the other region, and you get 21 home matches ex play offs.. Just 80 riders needed would free up plenty for replacements for poor performance/injury cover.. Maybe the other clubs not in the 16 then run as NL standard alongside some 'second teams' like BV Colts, and run with six or seven man teams to increase opportunities for development..? Edited August 2, 2019 by mikebv Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevebrum 6,820 Posted August 2, 2019 13 minutes ago, mikebv said: That would surely have to be the standard Steve.. I would go as far as five man teams.. No 1 - A current Prem/Champ Heat Leader No 2 - A current Prem Second String/Champ Heat Leader No3 - A current Prem Reserve/Champ Second String No4 - A current Champ Reserve/ NL Heat Leader No5 - A current NL Heat Leader/Second String.. Circa £3.5k the lot per night max.. £300, £500, £700, £900, £1100 per night per rider.. 16 teams, regional split, race home and away twice in your region and once in the other region, and you get 21 home matches ex play offs.. Just 80 riders needed would free up plenty for replacements for poor performance/injury cover.. Maybe the other clubs not in the 16 then run as NL standard with some 'second teams' like BV Colts.. Be something like the Danish league? Makes sense but that would entice me even less. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
arnieg 3,624 Posted August 2, 2019 2016 10+ kroner to the pound 28 Danes in EL/PL 2019 8+ kroner to pound 16 Danes in PL/CL (and that includes riders like Hans Andersen and Ostergaard nearing the end of their careers and Agertoft/Tobias Thomsen. But notably none of the rising stars like Jakobsen (Freddie), Jeppesen, Sorensen, Birkemose or various Hansen's) I wouldn't bank on Scandis filling up the vacant spaces. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DC2 11,150 Posted August 2, 2019 38 minutes ago, arnieg said: 2016 10+ kroner to the pound 28 Danes in EL/PL 2019 8+ kroner to pound 16 Danes in PL/CL Is that because more Brits/UK Aussies can now double up due to the PL and the CL having different races nights? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DC2 11,150 Posted August 2, 2019 (edited) Swindon in one league might have something like: Rasmus Jensen Ellis Perks Stefan Nielsen Josh Pickering Tobiasz Musielak Mikkel B Andersen Anders Rowe Quite an entertaining side. All have CL averages apart from Musielak. The 1.5 ratio is obviously rubbish. 1.25 is about right, making Musielak 7.95 and the team 42.15 (CL). Edited August 2, 2019 by DC2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Call me wolfie 677 Posted August 2, 2019 1 hour ago, Gunner85 said: The only way we can have one league in today’s Speedway is to dilute the teams sufficiently to make Speedway viable for all teams. It may mean saying goodbye to any SGP riders and allowing Britain to race on the night that suits each team. Not just GP riders would be missing though, anyone who rides Sweden, Poland, Denmark etc would be ruled out if meetings could be any night. The standard would be very poor and I doubt I would bother to be honest. No Thorssell, Masters, Becker or Morris from Wolves alone. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv 10,695 Posted August 2, 2019 1 hour ago, DC2 said: Swindon in one league might have something like: Rasmus Jensen Ellis Perks Stefan Nielsen Josh Pickering Tobiasz Musielak Mikkel B Andersen Anders Rowe Quite an entertaining side. All have CL averages apart from Musielak. The 1.5 ratio is obviously rubbish. 1.25 is about right, making Musielak 7.95 and the team 42.15 (CL). The plan for next year is set for the multiplier to rise to 1.6 rather than be reduced...... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Crabba59 156 Posted August 2, 2019 3 hours ago, stevebrum said: Be something like the Danish league? Makes sense but that would entice me even less. How often do you go now to wolves? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevebrum 6,820 Posted August 2, 2019 1 hour ago, pitstop84 said: How often do you go now to wolves? The relevance of that is? We are talking about the product on offer now and potentially next season. I’ve already stated that the product on offer doesn’t entice me very much. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GWC 495 Posted August 2, 2019 (edited) 5 hours ago, DC2 said: Swindon in one league might have something like: Rasmus Jensen Ellis Perks Stefan Nielsen Josh Pickering Tobiasz Musielak Mikkel B Andersen Anders Rowe Quite an entertaining side. All have CL averages apart from Musielak. The 1.5 ratio is obviously rubbish. 1.25 is about right, making Musielak 7.95 and the team 42.15 (CL). I’m sure the current budget at Swindon for Doyle and Batchelor is probably 50% of the total. If you just retained Batchelor when added to 6 of the above then that would establish a true number one just as you had in the days of Briggo! Edited August 2, 2019 by GWC Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
