Eastbourne v Glasgow Semi Final

[alang 306]

1 hour ago, SharpenRake said:

The simplest thing would be for the SCB to declare the result null and void and instruct that it be re-run at a neutral track. Belle Vue would be a sensible alternative venue as it is roughly 200+miles from both tracks. 

Surely the most appropriate punishment would be to ban both Eastbourne and Glasgow from the shield.Then ban Leicester because Stuart Dickson used to be manager at Glasgow then award the shield to Berwick as the only remaining semi - finalist.Also award it to Berwick because we"re nice - pretty useless admittedly, but nice.

[Solidmango 188]

11 minutes ago, lucifer sam said:

In what way is the marshal acting incorrectly?  It's true that track staff should not be on the track during a race, but this wasn't during a race.  It's while other people were still on the track.  Cookie had plenty of time to slow down, but didn't. He disobeyed a red flag. 

Since when did a red flag on a speedway track mean stop instantly regardless of where you are and do not move? A red flag is waved, they should slow down and return to the pits. The marshal clearly walks to his left into the line of the bike and deliberately causes a collision. 

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1 minute ago, Solidmango said:

Since when did a red flag on a speedway track mean stop instantly regardless of where you are and do not move? A red flag is waved, they should slow down and return to the pits. The marshal clearly walks to his left into the line of the bike and deliberately causes a collision. 

Its all getting a bit repetitive and tedious now

[Solidmango 188]

14 minutes ago, lucifer sam said:

In what way is the marshal acting incorrectly?  It's true that track staff should not be on the track during a race, but this wasn't during a race.  It's while other people were still on the track.  Cookie had plenty of time to slow down, but didn't. He disobeyed a red flag. 

I'll give you a wee hand, this is straight from the SCB rule book, the only section mentioning the red flag. So, did the referee put the red lights on?!

 

14.14 The TRACK CURATOR (who must be formally approved by the SCB) ensures the track and all connected aspects receives timely and suitable preparation prior to and during a Meeting. a) They must be fully aware and responsible to ensure compliance of these Regulations, specifically Art.9.2.1 (provision of a fixed APD’s, spare APD Panels and Inflatable Pumps), Art.9.2.2 (advertising on fences), Art. 9.2.3 (Neutral Zone), Art.9.2.4 (Infield requirements), Art.9.2.5 and 9.2.5.1 (Inner and Outer Edge markings) and Art.9.5 (minimum equipment requirements and shale). b) confirm to the Referee by means of the Meeting Certificate of the type and quantity of Equipment available and that it is in working order. c) Assisted by Track Marshals ensure that the track is clear of all objects as soon as the 2-minute warning is sounded and that the Red Flags are shown immediately the Referee shows the Red Stop lights.

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5 minutes ago, alang said:

Surely the most appropriate punishment would be to ban both Eastbourne and Glasgow from the shield.Then ban Leicester because Stuart Dickson used to be manager at Glasgow then award the shield to Berwick as the only remaining semi - finalist.Also award it to Berwick because we"re nice - pretty useless admittedly, but nice.

Also think would should be awarded League Title as we are the only Team not to make a rider change.In the spirit of the Sport of course

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11 minutes ago, Solidmango said:

I'll give you a wee hand, this is straight from the SCB rule book, the only section mentioning the red flag. So, did the referee put the red lights on?!

 

14.14 The TRACK CURATOR (who must be formally approved by the SCB) ensures the track and all connected aspects receives timely and suitable preparation prior to and during a Meeting. a) They must be fully aware and responsible to ensure compliance of these Regulations, specifically Art.9.2.1 (provision of a fixed APD’s, spare APD Panels and Inflatable Pumps), Art.9.2.2 (advertising on fences), Art. 9.2.3 (Neutral Zone), Art.9.2.4 (Infield requirements), Art.9.2.5 and 9.2.5.1 (Inner and Outer Edge markings) and Art.9.5 (minimum equipment requirements and shale). b) confirm to the Referee by means of the Meeting Certificate of the type and quantity of Equipment available and that it is in working order. c) Assisted by Track Marshals ensure that the track is clear of all objects as soon as the 2-minute warning is sounded and that the Red Flags are shown immediately the Referee shows the Red Stop lights.

Excellent point. No sign of red lights being on in the video I saw.

[Solidmango 188]

3 minutes ago, timetoturnleftagain said:

Has the full video been posted in this long thread? other than the short clip from Martin Dugard, I’ve been sent a link to the longer version but it’s a Facebook link so you may need an account to view it if I post the link.

No, only the shortened version has been posted. 

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c’mon get it on here ,let’s see a good handbags at dawn. Just to finish this thread off.(or another 20 pages)

[timetoturnleftagain 16]

7 minutes ago, Solidmango said:

No, only the shortened version has been posted. 

Have a look on Shaun Tacey Facebook page full video there. I can’t seem to link it here for some reason. 

Edited August 6, 2019 by timetoturnleftagain

[Solidmango 188]

1 minute ago, timetoturnleftagain said:

Have a look on Shaun Tacey Facebook page full video there. 

Not showing unless friends with him. What's the title of the video and we may be able to track it down?

[timetoturnleftagain 16]

4 minutes ago, Solidmango said:

Not showing unless friends with him. What's the title of the video and we may be able to track it down?

Old school speedway still exists

if anybody else is better technically than me and is also friends with him they may be able to link it here. 

Edited August 6, 2019 by timetoturnleftagain

[Solidmango 188]

5 minutes ago, timetoturnleftagain said:

Old school speedway still exists 

No luck finding it unfortunately. 

[lucifer sam 3,953]

24 minutes ago, Solidmango said:

I'll give you a wee hand, this is straight from the SCB rule book, the only section mentioning the red flag. So, did the referee put the red lights on?!

 

14.14 The TRACK CURATOR (who must be formally approved by the SCB) ensures the track and all connected aspects receives timely and suitable preparation prior to and during a Meeting. a) They must be fully aware and responsible to ensure compliance of these Regulations, specifically Art.9.2.1 (provision of a fixed APD’s, spare APD Panels and Inflatable Pumps), Art.9.2.2 (advertising on fences), Art. 9.2.3 (Neutral Zone), Art.9.2.4 (Infield requirements), Art.9.2.5 and 9.2.5.1 (Inner and Outer Edge markings) and Art.9.5 (minimum equipment requirements and shale). b) confirm to the Referee by means of the Meeting Certificate of the type and quantity of Equipment available and that it is in working order. c) Assisted by Track Marshals ensure that the track is clear of all objects as soon as the 2-minute warning is sounded and that the Red Flags are shown immediately the Referee shows the Red Stop lights.

And I'll give you a wee hand - there wasn't a race going on, so the above is redundant. 

Not sure if the ref would have been even at the controls for the pre-meeting parade. 

A Red Flag means slow down and come to a halt. Cookie doesn't seem to slow down at all.  He had plenty of time to throttle off.

[Solidmango 188]

1 minute ago, lucifer sam said:

And I'll give you a wee hand - there wasn't a race going on, so the above is redundant. 

Not sure if the ref would have been even at the controls for the pre-meeting parade. 

A Red Flag means slow down and come to a halt. Cookie doesn't seem to slow down at all.  He had plenty of time to throttle off.

No race - no need for marshals, pretty simple really. He slows down when the fruit cake with the red flag steps in his way!! 

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5 minutes ago, Solidmango said:

No race - no need for marshals, pretty simple really. He slows down when the fruit cake with the red flag steps in his way!! 

Cook was riding his bike at a time when he should not have.