Hamish McRaker 601 Posted August 7, 2019 2 hours ago, Richard Weston said: Whether it was a headbutt, or not: you cannot escape the fact that Cook attacked a track marshal, rode through the pits, which he (or anyone else) is not allowed to do, and ignored red lights/flags. Cook, if he thought he was provoked, needed to act in a professional way. He didn't. Looked to me like Cook tried to shove the steward with his beer gut but made a poor job of it because he hasn't got one. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SharpenRake 1,505 Posted August 7, 2019 3 minutes ago, False dawn said: So the referee passed the track as ready to race. So he should have come down hard on any further (unofficial) actions being taken by club or rider. He would have been aware of the ill feeling and should have advised the Glasgow management that he was not having any of it. What actions were taken by the club/rider? In Glasgow's case 3 riders mistakenly (I assume they were advised of the procedures - they are totally different from Glasgow's) rode off before they should have. Red lights (allegedly) are put on, riders have 2 options, go back to an area that is apparently teeming with children, staff etc etc or ride around away from the 'danger area' to the pits. The 3 riders are clearly travelling slowly and headed towards a pit gate when the marshall becomes involved. The marshall having created the problem then walks away and lets other Eastbourne people including Eastbourne riders create a riot. How were the Glasgow management meant to stop a riot? Was Michael Max expected to walk up to the Eastbourne staff/ riders and say 'look could you stop this please, this sort of thing isn't very nice?' 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mac101 1,201 Posted August 7, 2019 Take it Kennett and Newman were also annoyed that the riders left the parade early and chased cookie after he set off because they were there throwing punches quicker than the security lol 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HGould 2,213 Posted August 7, 2019 28 minutes ago, SharpenRake said: What actions were taken by the club/rider? In Glasgow's case 3 riders mistakenly (I assume they were advised of the procedures - they are totally different from Glasgow's) rode off before they should have. Red lights (allegedly) are put on, riders have 2 options, go back to an area that is apparently teeming with children, staff etc etc or ride around away from the 'danger area' to the pits. The 3 riders are clearly travelling slowly and headed towards a pit gate when the marshall becomes involved. The marshall having created the problem then walks away and lets other Eastbourne people including Eastbourne riders create a riot. How were the Glasgow management meant to stop a riot? Was Michael Max expected to walk up to the Eastbourne staff/ riders and say 'look could you stop this please, this sort of thing isn't very nice?' or may be a lot nearer the truth Cook ignored standard protocol as his head was not right. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jenga 2,998 Posted August 7, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, SharpenRake said: Extra work was done which suggests the referee had sympathy for the Glasgow riders concerns i think the ref gave all the glasgow riders a placebo just to shut then up ! Edited August 7, 2019 by jenga Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skidder1 7,636 Posted August 7, 2019 How did Kennett and Cook get on at Kings Lynn on Monday? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jenga 2,998 Posted August 7, 2019 2 hours ago, DC2 said: Kennet was the bigger disgrace. NO he wasnt . and you know who was . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jenga 2,998 Posted August 7, 2019 1 hour ago, Pinny said: attempting to head butt someone whilst wearing a hard hat is cowardly, pathetic and absolutely disgraceful regardless of being provoked. not to mention all the body armour ,chest ,legs box and arm/elbow protection they wear it was like knife against a gun , only one winner . good to see kyle not get tangled up in the glasgow ignorance . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jenga 2,998 Posted August 7, 2019 1 hour ago, mac101 said: Take it Kennett and Newman were also annoyed that the riders left the parade early and chased cookie after he set off because they were there throwing punches quicker than the security lol didnt see any security men throwing punches , did you ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mac101 1,201 Posted August 7, 2019 2 hours ago, jenga said: didnt see any security men throwing punches , did you ? No but the Eastbourne riders were before the security could get there to stop them Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jenga 2,998 Posted August 7, 2019 (edited) lets just all rewind for a moment and think who started the on track action , bearing in mind that the home team has the right to make the track to their advantage that is acceptable . hot day , plenty of water or hot day plenty of dust ... worky visited glasgow when rickey wells was number one for us . the track was swimming but glasgow wanted to carry on .this can be seen on the glasgow site and its well into the meeting and swimming . kennets actions were in my eyes in defence of fellow eastbourne staff/riders .. also WHO SWUNG THE FIRST PUNCH . Edited August 7, 2019 by jenga 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fromafar 10,361 Posted August 7, 2019 At least young Bickley had the sense not to get involved in the handbags ,although he was one of the riders who appeared to be pushed off early. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SharpenRake 1,505 Posted August 7, 2019 8 minutes ago, jenga said: lets just all rewind for a moment and think who started the on track action , bearing in mind that the home team has the right to make the track to their advantage that is acceptable . hot day , plenty of water or hot day plenty of dust ... worky visited glasgow when rickey wells was number one for us . the track was swimming but glasgow wanted to carry on .this can be seen on the glasgow site and its well into the meeting and swimming . kennets actions were in my eyes in defence of fellow eastbourne staff/riders .. also WHO SWUNG THE FIRST PUNCH . I'm not sure what you're saying but the thrust seems to be if you are of a non Glasgow persuasion it is OK to react or even over react whether it is justified or not. If you are of a Glasgow persuasion you should just stand back take all the intimidation, verbal abuse, be pushed and shoved, threatened and punched. Wasn't aware that JC rode for us and we all know what happened to him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jenga 2,998 Posted August 7, 2019 i take it J C is jesus christ ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fromafar 10,361 Posted August 7, 2019 It’s just pity that Eastbourne have been to Glasgow on league business, that would have attracted a bit of interest. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites