Eastbourne v Glasgow Semi Final

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1 hour ago, HGould said:

The implication of that is that if cook did not have previous form in terms of assaulting  Track Officials, he would have received same punishment as Kennett and Vissing.

I'd argue from what I've seen that Cook's actions were pre-meditated by events of previous 90 minutes, Vissing acted like an idiot all night and Kennett over reacted to seeing Cook's attack om Marshall.

I would suggest if 10 days is the entry level that Cook is very lucky not to get 20+ days.

If its true that Cook gets two days extra as he has previous then that does seem very lenient. 

[SharpenRake 1,505]

Quote from SCB statement: Over the last 2 weeks, the SCB Co Ordinator has requested witness statements from a number of licenced officials who were in attendance at the Eastbourne v Glasgow fixture on Saturday 3rd August, and also has reviewed video evidence from the scenes that happened prior to that fixture.

 The 3rd of August was 8 days ago. Mr Vatcher's time sheets must make interesting reading 
 

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7 minutes ago, screm said:

If its true that Cook gets two days extra as he has previous then that does seem very lenient. 

The trouble with giving 10 or 12 day bans is that a club with two home meetings in that time can flood the track and the referee says it is not fit for racing so the rider does not in fact miss any meetings while another team may have four or five away meetings in that time which the rider has to miss. 

The bans should have been one/two/three home and one/two/three away matchs so that they all miss the same number of meetings. 

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Not sure whether Cook would consider appealing the ban as that’s risky business as if  SCB/ACU rule the ban is fair and he delays starting it now then he will be prohibited from riding in the GP Challenge in a couple of weeks and the Championship riders final. Also like with any appeal the ban could be increased 

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12 minutes ago, SharpenRake said:

Quote from SCB statement: Over the last 2 weeks, the SCB Co Ordinator has requested witness statements from a number of licenced officials who were in attendance at the Eastbourne v Glasgow fixture on Saturday 3rd August, and also has reviewed video evidence from the scenes that happened prior to that fixture.

 The 3rd of August was 8 days ago. Mr Vatcher's time sheets must make interesting reading 
 

Not very well worded, but that’s to be expected from BSPA.

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1 hour ago, MD said:

No mention of any sanctions against Dugard or Eastbourne's failure to control their track staff.

During this time we have Leicester B home and away this weekend with Leicester away on the Saturday. Guest choices will need to be wise. Perhaps Chazzer Wright could do us a turn for Friday and Sunday. A small track specialist definitely required for Saturday. I was going to say Danny King but there's no way Damo would allow that.

Remains to be seen if the Glasgow riders appeal, at which point they should still be able to ride until the appeal is heard.

There should be mention made of the responsibilities of the Eastbourne promotion to ensure all Marshals are aware of their responsibilities which include keeping themselves and others safe from harm. There is an infield line on centre greens for a reason at all tracks, it’s the SAFE distance a marshal should stand between centre green and track. And NEVER on track when bikes are on. 

If Eastbourne aren’t held accountable or put out there own statement about safety of staff then no lessons will be learned and it’s yet another accident waiting to happen. 

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29 minutes ago, stevebrum said:

There should be mention made of the responsibilities of the Eastbourne promotion to ensure all Marshals are aware of their responsibilities which include keeping themselves and others safe from harm. There is an infield line on centre greens for a reason at all tracks, it’s the SAFE distance a marshal should stand between centre green and track. And NEVER on track when bikes are on. 

If Eastbourne aren’t held accountable or put out there own statement about safety of staff then no lessons will be learned and it’s yet another accident waiting to happen. 

You've been on this forum about as long as I have, still spouting drivel then..

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If the 'Glasgow Two' dont appeal we could always whip the transformer out of the floodlights, you can only get them in the Netherlands you know and they are on back order, get Scottish Power to urgently dig up the mains electric cable to the stadium or have the water bowser taps accidentally stick open and flood the place. We'll need to do it early though as Damo will be there with Dicksons reserves ready to Twitter everything within an inch of its life!

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3 hours ago, Fromafar said:

That should signal another 50 pages

Only 50! 

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37 minutes ago, stevebrum said:

There should be mention made of the responsibilities of the Eastbourne promotion to ensure all Marshals are aware of their responsibilities which include keeping themselves and others safe from harm. There is an infield line on centre greens for a reason at all tracks, it’s the SAFE distance a marshal should stand between centre green and track. And NEVER on track when bikes are on. 

If Eastbourne aren’t held accountable or put out there own statement about safety of staff then no lessons will be learned and it’s yet another accident waiting to happen. 

But why are we thinking that's relevant here ? The marshalls were on the track anyway.  It was the riders who weren't supposed to be on it at that point. Surely clerk of course ultimately is responsible for letting the bikes encroach anyway and perhaps not using the rope across the track thing that some places still use. 

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11 minutes ago, M.D said:

You've been on this forum about as long as I have, still spouting drivel then..

With your 39 posts. Nicely outed. 

Someone who clearly feels no need to follow health and safety protocol at a motor sports event. 

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3 minutes ago, The Doctor... said:

But why are we thinking that's relevant here ? The marshalls were on the track anyway.  It was the riders who weren't supposed to be on it at that point. Surely clerk of course ultimately is responsible for letting the bikes encroach anyway and perhaps not using the rope across the track thing that some places still use. 

What’s relevant is that Marshals aren’t meant to be on track whilst bikes are!

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5 minutes ago, stevebrum said:

What’s relevant is that Marshals aren’t meant to be on track whilst bikes are!

The track Marshall’s at Berwick at at other tracks I have visited, stand on the track with a piece of rope connected to the fence guiding the riders off the track into the pits after the parade, so there is obviously no rule regarding Marshal’s being on the track whilst bikes are.That happens every week at Berwick.

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6 minutes ago, Fromafar said:

The track Marshall’s at Berwick at at other tracks I have visited, stand on the track with a piece of rope connected to the fence guiding the riders off the track into the pits after the parade, so there is obviously no rule regarding Marshal’s being on the track whilst bikes are.That happens every week at Berwick.

Yes I’ve heard that some tracks do this practise but I can only go by what we have been told that there is an expected requirement from all marshals. 

I fail to see any need for this procedure tho given that when red lights come on and marshals flag red that all riders are aware that it’s time to leave the track after warm up laps. 

With what has happened at Eastbourne I can see new precedents being set that all marshals stay off track.

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6 minutes ago, stevebrum said:

Yes I’ve heard that some tracks do this practise but I can only go by what we have been told that there is an expected requirement from all marshals. 

I fail to see any need for this procedure tho given that when red lights come on and marshals flag red that all riders are aware that it’s time to leave the track after warm up laps. 

With what has happened at Eastbourne I can see new precedents being set that all marshals stay off track.

Personally I don’t see what all the fuss is about ,marshals with red flags have being doing there job efficiently for year at most tracks.This event has more do with the build up to the meeting and riders getting themselves all wound up.Its history now though.