Steve0 5,517 Posted August 22, 2019 36 minutes ago, SPEEDY69 said: As the first person to act violently it's ironic that Cook has not served a ban but the other two have. So what punishment did the muppet with the red flag get? After all, it was him that sparked the violence! 2 1 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
woofers 467 Posted August 22, 2019 2 hours ago, old bob at herne bay said: The Doctor .....should you be called Vale ? Tbh I have no idea who the promotion is at Eastbourne in 2019. YOU say it isn’t Martin Dugard. Others have told me that Mr J Cook isn’t a promoter anymore... but a director of something or other. Ian Jordan is another name that maybe a promoter. Paul Dugard seems to be involved.. maybe just a grease monkey in the pits? You missed the Martin Dugard “lunge “ at Claus Vissing on the Centre green filmed by a Glasgow supporter? Vissing banned for 10 days for that ......oh yes he deliberately broke the tapes ... oh yes he rode off and spoiled the parade ! So Doctor pray tell me who YOU think are the promoter(s) ? Bob, when you post as "authoritatively" as you like to, you need to make sure you have your facts right. There were no lunges on the Centre green, all the 'action' took place on the track, at bend 2 for the first incident involving Craig Cook and umpteen others, and at bend 1 when Vissing felt he needed to come over and remonstrate in an incident in which he was not even riding, one that involved Newman and Andersen. As for the Eastbourne personnel, well it wasn't too difficult to find on their website : Club Details: Management: Eastbourne Eagles Ltd (Companies House Registration No: 11727388) Company Director: Ian Jordan: Business / Commercial Director Promoters (authorised by BSPA) Mike Bellerby Trevor Geer Team Managers: Will Pottinger & Trevor Geer Head of Speedway Operations: Jon Cook Club Captain: Edward Kennett Announcer: Kevin Coombes Official Track Photographers: Mick Hinves & Tiffani Graveling Track Record: 54.8 seconds 18/4/2008 Jason Crump 23/8/2008 Chris Holder 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
woofers 467 Posted August 22, 2019 1 hour ago, Steve0 said: So what punishment did the muppet with the red flag get? After all, it was him that sparked the violence! Give it a rest mate, we've been over this. The guy with the red flag walked away from the incident, at no stage did he use aggressive behaviour. If Cook and the others had waited for the presentation to end, I suspect none of this would have happened. 4 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv 10,706 Posted August 22, 2019 1 hour ago, Steve0 said: So what punishment did the muppet with the red flag get? After all, it was him that sparked the violence! He got commended for doing his job and not reacting to being assaulted 3 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Steve0 5,517 Posted August 22, 2019 27 minutes ago, woofers said: Give it a rest mate, we've been over this. The guy with the red flag walked away from the incident, at no stage did he use aggressive behaviour. If Cook and the others had waited for the presentation to end, I suspect none of this would have happened. I agree with you that if Cook and the others had waited for the presentation to end then none of what followed would have happened. However, I asked a genuine question about some fool with a red flag who walked in front of a moving bike without brakes - what punishment did he receive for being the instigator of what followed? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
woofers 467 Posted August 22, 2019 We don’t know. Any recriminations aren’t likely to be made public. Perhaps being stood down from duties for x meetings. We’ll see if he’s there on Saturday. Or perhaps, no punishment but some additional training and advice. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lisa-colette 6,028 Posted August 22, 2019 1 hour ago, woofers said: Give it a rest mate, we've been over this. The guy with the red flag walked away from the incident, at no stage did he use aggressive behaviour. If Cook and the others had waited for the presentation to end, I suspect none of this would have happened. Exactly! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jenga 2,998 Posted August 22, 2019 this thread will never surpass the eastbourne V glasgow thread in the championship section .. but then again its only 27 pages behind... lol . same questions being asked over n over again ... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tyretrax 2,253 Posted August 22, 2019 1 hour ago, woofers said: We don’t know. Any recriminations aren’t likely to be made public. Perhaps being stood down from duties for x meetings. We’ll see if he’s there on Saturday. Or perhaps, no punishment but some additional training and advice. He was still there later on in the meeting, he appeared in the video of the second incident. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv 10,706 Posted August 22, 2019 Oh look a flagman on the track during parade 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jenga 2,998 Posted August 22, 2019 see you are no taylor lanning ! 1 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Steve0 5,517 Posted August 22, 2019 1 hour ago, dontforgetthefueltapsbruv said: Oh look a flagman on the track during parade Did he deliberately step in front of a moving bike? I don’t think so!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv 10,706 Posted August 22, 2019 7 minutes ago, Steve0 said: Did he deliberately step in front of a moving bike? I don’t think so!! He does if they look like attempting a start from an inappropriate point on the track.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv 10,706 Posted August 22, 2019 55 minutes ago, jenga said: see you are no taylor lanning ! #allmyownwork 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
old bob at herne bay 828 Posted August 22, 2019 The Doctor.... thank you ... so it’s Bellerby and Jordan . So all the “hangers on” getting involved as usual in these incidents instead of minding their business. Sorry to disappoint , but I did see a video posted on here showing Mr M Dugard deliberately knocking Claus Vissing backwards on the Centre green at the first/second bend area. It was a physical assault. The promoters clearly need to ensure better discipline from their staff. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites