leander 495 Posted August 24, 2019 5 hours ago, Bagpuss said: Jorgensen is averaging 7.23, that’s his level. Not sure he’s ever going to be better than that. King’s Lynn is a very unique surface, I wouldn’t judge his overall ability on his scores there. No he's not!. Granted 7.23 is his official GSA, but that is heavily influenced by last season with it being based on rolling averages. His starting GSA was 7.66. His average purely on this years official matches (without bonus points) is 6.51, more than a point below his starting average. It's even worse if you include start of season challenge matches! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ruffdiamond 6,115 Posted August 24, 2019 (edited) 45 minutes ago, leander said: No he's not!. Granted 7.23 is his official GSA, but that is heavily influenced by last season with it being based on rolling averages. His starting GSA was 7.66. His average purely on this years official matches (without bonus points) is 6.51, more than a point below his starting average. It's even worse if you include start of season challenge matches! and also, the fact that every rider in the league was granted a 'free' half point rise, if they took it, due to the points limit reduction. So, infact,,, anyone that has not retained their average, has performed worse than you think Edited August 24, 2019 by ruffdiamond Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Loose Diamond Posted August 24, 2019 37 minutes ago, ruffdiamond said: and also, the fact that every rider in the league was granted a 'free' half point rise, if they took it, due to the points limit reduction. So, infact,,, anyone that has not retained their average, has performed worse than you think Ok. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Winditon 233 Posted August 24, 2019 9 hours ago, IronScorpion said: Not sure if the posters on here, having a go at TJ, were actually at the meeting. Yes he should be scoring more as a heat leader but his score of 5 does not do him justice as he could easily have scored 8-10 being in the mix for all his races but the track was awesome for both teams attacking the multi lines available. On the flip side to that, both Barker & Nielsen were in the mix & could/should have scored more with an unfortunate puncture robbing Nielsen of points. This, also, happened to Wethers in heat 14. Overall, it was a tight meeting, as I expected, with the score line not doing justice to what was served up. Ully was superb for you guys. TJ has been so frustrating. I personally like him but he's doing himself no favours. At the end of the day it's not for the lack of trying as he is so hard on himself when things aren't working out. The annoying thing is that there is a very good rider in there somewhere but sadly hasn't been shown enough. On his day he can beat anyone at championship level and even premiership as he has shown especially around Kings Lynn but we Newcastle fans haven't seen it much. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ruffdiamond 6,115 Posted August 24, 2019 23 minutes ago, Winditon said: TJ has been so frustrating. I personally like him but he's doing himself no favours. At the end of the day it's not for the lack of trying as he is so hard on himself when things aren't working out. The annoying thing is that there is a very good rider in there somewhere but sadly hasn't been shown enough. On his day he can beat anyone at championship level and even premiership as he has shown especially around Kings Lynn but we Newcastle fans haven't seen it much. When TJ rides at Kings Lynn, does he gate well, or does he score points from the back ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
scunny1 436 Posted August 24, 2019 What do you expect from TJ when in 3 of his rides he was up against Josh Auty or Jake Allen? Nobody could get anywhere near both of the Scorpions last night including ex Scorpion Capt. Worrall. Nice to see Phillips pick up a point, oh no I forgot, gifted a point! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tsunami 10,219 Posted August 24, 2019 6 hours ago, ruffdiamond said: A Troll is, an ugly creature depicted as a either giant or a dwarf. They lurk in the shadows, ready to pounce on unsuspecting lessers. Got you and Loose Diamond the wrong way round ? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Justgotmecpc 1,059 Posted August 24, 2019 50 minutes ago, scunny1 said: What do you expect from TJ when in 3 of his rides he was up against Josh Auty or Jake Allen? Nobody could get anywhere near both of the Scorpions last night including ex Scorpion Capt. Worrall. Nice to see Phillips pick up a point, oh no I forgot, gifted a point! You ever rode a speedway bike ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
scunny1 436 Posted August 24, 2019 Yep and rode raced, sand raced and trials too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gringo 142 Posted August 24, 2019 5 minutes ago, scunny1 said: Yep and rode raced, sand raced and trials too. And went on a mystery tour twice,on the way home on Wednesday. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Loose Diamond Posted August 25, 2019 5 hours ago, Winditon said: TJ has been so frustrating. I personally like him but he's doing himself no favours. At the end of the day it's not for the lack of trying as he is so hard on himself when things aren't working out. The annoying thing is that there is a very good rider in there somewhere but sadly hasn't been shown enough. On his day he can beat anyone at championship level and even premiership as he has shown especially around Kings Lynn but we Newcastle fans haven't seen it much. Bottom of the League pushing the Scorpions all the way?? Hahaha hahahaha! What a load rubbish. Scorpions riders rode around Newcastle riders like they were standing still. Don't know where Auty gets that statement from. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Loose Diamond Posted August 25, 2019 5 hours ago, Winditon said: TJ has been so frustrating. I personally like him but he's doing himself no favours. At the end of the day it's not for the lack of trying as he is so hard on himself when things aren't working out. The annoying thing is that there is a very good rider in there somewhere but sadly hasn't been shown enough. On his day he can beat anyone at championship level and even premiership as he has shown especially around Kings Lynn but we Newcastle fans haven't seen it much. Newcastle should have won this meeting but certain riders not up to it. Scunthorpe there for the taking but Newcastle can not hold on to a lead or pass anyone. You should see them at home. Total in charge against Eastbourne last week but totally threw it away. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ruffdiamond 6,115 Posted August 25, 2019 8 hours ago, Tsunami said: Got you and Loose Diamond the wrong way round ? Yeah Dave, probly quite an easy mistake to make. A few there meet the criteria. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bagpuss 10,780 Posted August 25, 2019 9 hours ago, ruffdiamond said: When TJ rides at Kings Lynn, does he gate well, or does he score points from the back ? You have to gate well at Lynn if you want to score well. Very little passing nowadays. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ruffdiamond 6,115 Posted August 25, 2019 19 minutes ago, Bagpuss said: You have to gate well at Lynn if you want to score well. Very little passing nowadays. Yet he doesn't seem able to gate at Newcastle, maybe he's beat before he rides ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
