Skidder1 7,632 Posted August 31, 2019 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Gavan said: Oh dear......i will let you off as you have the smiling emoji The usual suspects see nothing wrong in what Kurtz done....... expected If he was winded - and its perfectly understandable that he was - then there is 'nothing wrong in what he done' or what he did. Bearing in mind his recent injuries I'm sure he was simply being ultra cautious, with his parents there just prior to their return to Oz yesterday. Edited August 31, 2019 by Skidder1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gavan 5,049 Posted August 31, 2019 17 minutes ago, Skidder1 said: If he was winded - and its perfectly understandable that he was - then there is 'nothing wrong in what he done' or what he did. Bearing in mind his recent injuries I'm sure he was simply being ultra cautious, with his parents there just prior to their return to Oz yesterday. Ok i will let you have your view.........myself and the rest of the people that were there have ours.......expected as i say Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thecoombdog 2,367 Posted August 31, 2019 38 minutes ago, Skidder1 said: If he was winded - and its perfectly understandable that he was - then there is 'nothing wrong in what he done' or what he did. Bearing in mind his recent injuries I'm sure he was simply being ultra cautious, with his parents there just prior to their return to Oz yesterday. Mate I know you are up the management and riders arses because they know who you are but F me that is a ridiculous post. Not even Shov would say that and mean it. Let's just hope it happens against you in the play offs and then we will see what the reaction is then. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gavan 5,049 Posted August 31, 2019 25 minutes ago, thecoombdog said: Mate I know you are up the management and riders arses because they know who you are but F me that is a ridiculous post. Not even Shov would say that and mean it. Let's just hope it happens against you in the play offs and then we will see what the reaction is then. The decent Poole fans on here like foreverblue and rayc accept what Brady did was wrong....dont condone it....and move on We then get the usual same ones trying to defend the indefensible As ive said many many times......it didnt affect the result....not one Ipswich fan is saying it did.......... Starman called it sour grapes.........but we know he lacks intelligence I expected Lisa and Shovlar to say it was ok because they never see anything bad Thought Skidder would have been different but oh well Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lisa-colette 6,018 Posted August 31, 2019 1 minute ago, Gavan said: The decent Poole fans on here like foreverblue and rayc accept what Brady did was wrong....dont condone it....and move on We then get the usual same ones trying to defend the indefensible As ive said many many times......it didnt affect the result....not one Ipswich fan is saying it did.......... Starman called it sour grapes.........but we know he lacks intelligence I expected Lisa and Shovlar to say it was ok because they never see anything bad Thought Skidder would have been different but oh well Did I say it was okay then?? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bagpuss 10,757 Posted August 31, 2019 We all know there would be absolute uproar on here if it had been the other way round and Poole had been on the receiving end. I would hate for one of Lynn’s riders to do it, I’d even go as far to say that a rider should be chucked out of the rest of the meeting if it’s absolutely blatant. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Steve Shovlar 10,439 Posted August 31, 2019 49 minutes ago, Gavan said: Ok i will let you have your view.........myself and the rest of the people that were there have ours.......expected as i say But you were not there. Stop trying to make out that you were by wording it like that. You have as much idea as I have as to what happened. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lisa-colette 6,018 Posted August 31, 2019 2 minutes ago, Bagpuss said: We all know there would be absolute uproar on here if it had been the other way round and Poole had been on the receiving end. I would hate for one of Lynn’s riders to do it, I’d even go as far to say that a rider should be chucked out of the rest of the meeting if it’s absolutely blatant. That's ridiculous. You don't get a red card for diving for a free kick or penalty in football. This is about the only thing you can compare speedway and football cos it is very similar. Maybe deducted 3pts from their individual score would be fairer? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Badge 5,119 Posted August 31, 2019 4 minutes ago, Steve Shovlar said: But you were not there. Stop trying to make out that you were by wording it like that. You have as much idea as I have as to what happened. You have no idea whether he attended or not, so stop trolling and winding him up Steve please. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lisa-colette 6,018 Posted August 31, 2019 1 minute ago, Badge said: You have no idea whether he attended or not, so stop trolling and winding him up Steve please. Umm, your fellow Ipswich fans started that when they claimed that no one has ever seen him there so he has prob never been and is a Poole fan disguised as an Ippo one! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BWitcher 12,453 Posted August 31, 2019 8 minutes ago, lisa-colette said: That's ridiculous. You don't get a red card for diving for a free kick or penalty in football. This is about the only thing you can compare speedway and football cos it is very similar. Maybe deducted 3pts from their individual score would be fairer? It's not the equivalent of diving. It's the equivalent of a professional foul. Which is a red card. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Steve Shovlar 10,439 Posted August 31, 2019 11 minutes ago, Badge said: You have no idea whether he attended or not, so stop trolling and winding him up Steve please. He has already said he wasn’t there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lisa-colette 6,018 Posted August 31, 2019 18 minutes ago, BWitcher said: It's not the equivalent of diving. It's the equivalent of a professional foul. Which is a red card. Nah. Stay down to get a rerun is like staying down to get a free kick. Surely a professional foul is like taking someone out and leaving them no room. Out of interest what do they do in Poland? Seeing as they use yellow and red card system. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bagpuss 10,757 Posted August 31, 2019 22 minutes ago, BWitcher said: It's not the equivalent of diving. It's the equivalent of a professional foul. Which is a red card. Spot on. In any case the intention wouldn't be to throw riders out of meetings, it would be to stop them cheating and I’m sure it would immediately. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
False dawn 2,294 Posted August 31, 2019 3 minutes ago, Bagpuss said: a rider should be chucked out of the rest of the meeting if it’s absolutely blatant A bit extreme, but an understandable reaction. I'm a bit confused about the 15m penalty rule that came in and some say has been dropped. Did referees complain that they were being asked to adjudicate on what was in a rider's mind? "Did he stay down on purpose or not?" For me, referees often have to make such judgements and this is no different. "Did he close the door on purpose or did he just drift a bit wide?" being a common example. The 15m penalty for a team mate in the rerun seems a fair response to a rider apparently staying down on purpose when his team mate is in 3rd place. I think I can tell if a rider is making a bonafide attempt to clear the track. How many times have we seen riders hobbling off the track with a damaged bike? For sure, if there was a suitable punishment for manipulating the situation, would riders take the risk? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
